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Next Release? #677
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👍 It'd be nice to have a release branch, like with 0.9.X. That way you create the branch and can do all release-related things there (RC, etc) without having to freeze master. When fixing things, fix in master and backport to the release branch. I fear that some issues will reappear with the release as some fixes only made it to 0.9.X and not master. Regarding the docs, they are built automatically on readthedocs: http://graphite.readthedocs.org/ (someone with enough permissions please replace the project URL with that, the repo home on GitHub still points to wikidot). So IMO no action is required here. Just mark the 0.10.0 release notes as final when cutting the release. Carbon & whisper releases are needed as well, with some pull-requests cleanup on these projects. Ceres has never been released so far so I don't know what the status is. |
I would prefer to prep and cut the release from master. Release branches are useful if you want to continue development during a release time. Also, I think it is simpler to just use master, no need to backport or forwardport. Regarding the project url, I have no ownership over th organization. I think it needs to be someone who does have that. @obfuscurity would you do use the honours? :) |
Yes, I think we all agreed some time ago to focus on cutting our next major release (0.10) from master. I'd like to see any glaring fixes applied to 0.9.x but we need to put that cow to pasture, so to speak. I'm happy to tag a pre-release candidate but I feel like we need to comb through the issues and PRs for any glaring fixes that should be included in a RC. |
@obfuscurity I agree that as many glaring things should be applied as possible. However, there are really a ton of PRs and Issues and sometimes it is better to release (ship) something that is adequate, rather than wait until it is perfect. For sorting issues, I would suggest to use the 0.10 milestone to flag anything that should absolutely go into 0.10: https://github.com/graphite-project/graphite-web/issues?milestone=2&page=1&state=open So currently there are 8 issues remaining. Does that mean: a) there are only 8 left to go? or b) that we still need to sift through the remaining 278 issues and 72 PRs? In the Numpy project the releases usually start with a request on the mailinglist, for anyone to speak up about issues that they thing should absolutely be resolved before the next release. This is nice, because it doesn't require the maintainers to sift through each and every one of the issues, which in the case of graphite(-web) is quite a daunting task. So, perhaps we can find a common ground where we say, the following issues will be fixed within a pre-defined time-period that we can commit to, and everything else will be sorted later. Also, for any major issues, security, grave functionality impediments, we can always push maintenance releases of the form 0.10.X. |
I strongly agree that getting into a regular release cycle is more important that worrying too much about combing the backlog. Some suggestions that I've seen work elsewhere:
What I've seen happen before is that each volunteer will polish and automate the process a little. The key point is that working on smoothing out the release process is an investment that will be more than paid back. Once momentum is restored to the project more people will be motivated to contribute and the backlog will be unblocked. |
At this stage I won't comment on how to structure releases. There are a lot of good ideas here but I'm new to the project and wouldn't feel confident in suggesting how to go forward in that respect. However, I would like to see at least one more 0.9.x release. As far as I know it is considered the "stable" release, but currently Graphite things just don't work if 0.9.x is checked out from all 3 repos. I have opened a number of PRs across the 3 repos that get the branch to the point where it does run and it would be great if they could be merged and then a new, possibly final, 0.9.x release tagged. I have one more 0.9.x branch in the works that doesn't have a PR here, but it is only a backport of a performance improvement so it wouldn't matter so much if it wasn't accepted here - my main interest is in getting 0.9.x across all three repos running out of the box. It's entirely possible that master is almost ready for a 0.10.x, but I'm not sure that it would be ready to be the new "stable" release as it has quite a bit of new functionality in it that may not be complete or well tested. For this reason, IMHO, it would be best to keep 0.9.x going at least there is a new "stable". Thanks! |
I would love to see a 0.9.x release come out soon and then have someone step up to take over the project leadership. Sadly I don't have much time to work on the project these days and I don't expect that to change anytime soon. Personally, I see projects like graphite-api and cyanite as the future of the Graphite community, but clearly a lot of folks would like to see something official come out of the official project for their short-term upgrade path. Is anyone willing to help massage the next release into shape? |
I am happy to be involved in the next (which obviously may be the final) release(s) of 0.9.x, but I'm not familiar enough with master to know if I have the bandwidth to be (heavily) involved in 0.10.x. I have a number of PRs pending for 0.9.x (various fixes and backports to get the branch back to running out of the box) that could be the makings of 0.9.13-pre and I'd be happy investigate bug reports relating to the pre-release once it has been tagged. Of course I'd be happy to help review any other PRs that it is thought should be included as well, but perhaps anything other than bugfixes could be postponed till at least 0.9.14? |
I'll have from Saturday through Thursday evenings completely uninterrupted to go through and merge a lot of PRs. I'll make a special point to look through all of your outstanding ones. Sorry but we've been busy with real life things unfortunately. |
Thanks Jeff. Totally understand the real life side of it, was more offering help than expecting anything. Once again, if I can help, let me know. |
I gather that it isn't clear if we should release a 0.9.x maintenance release or/and a 0.10.x release. We have been using the current master (plus some additional feature branches) in production since April w/o any issues. What are you guys using in production? The problem with having a 0.9.x and a 0.10.x simultaneously that it is a bit of a split brain situation, and having to supply two branches with fixes and updates is somewhat of a maintenance nightmare. As you can see here:
the two branches have diverged quite a If we do decide to to go for a 0.9.x, for which I do sense some momentum, we should use the 0.9.13 milestone, for which there are already some issues: https://github.com/graphite-project/graphite-web/issues?milestone=4&page=1&state=open |
BTW: tests for 0.9.x are currently passing: https://travis-ci.org/graphite-project/graphite-web/builds/19817617 Also, we should favor bugfixes only for 0.9.x as @steve-dave suggested and additionally reject anything that isn't tested in one way or another. |
Some fixes even made it to 0.9.x but not to master. I tried to resync things once but gave up… +1 for bugfix-only branches. |
I agree it's quite concerning how far the branches have diverged. I still feel that 0.9.x should be maintained until 0.10.x is released and becomes the official stable, perhaps put a line in the sand at 0.10.1 or 0.10.2? Any fixes that are applicable to both branches should be applied to both branches until 0.9.x is final (certainly not just to 0.9.x) - I'm not sure the preferred procedure for this but I have just been opening a PR for each branch rather than leaving it to the person that merges to have to port it. If someone else doesn't get to it first I will review the fixes that have been applied to 0.9.x and port them to master where applicable. |
The repo organization aspect of this is really the most difficult part to sort out in my opinion. I'm not sure how to dig out of the current mess, but the end result should look like:
edit: This is all just a suggestion from my point of view and one that I've made before in other channels. None of the above should be construed as me dictating new policy or assuming a role of leadership in the project; I've got too much other stuff going on to bite off a bigger chunk of graphite. |
I would like to help any way I can. Mostly I would like to create a new home page for graphite on a domain like graphite.org (or similar), with updated install guides, links to read the docs, download links, links to graphite-api etc. And usage screenshots & diagrams to show of what graphite can do. |
I had intended to build up something similar to Sensu's website for Graphite but never got around to it. I have the graphiteapp.org domain registered if anyone wants to use that. |
I agree that cleaning up the repo structure in the long run is something to aim at. Also having a nice a website under a good domain-name is something to aspire to. However, given the recent dilemma we are in, I would like to focus on getting a release out the door that fulfills the minimum requirements -- something like a minimum viable release. From what I gather here, maybe a @steve-dave you said you had some pending pull requests? I would like to take up your offer of looking into those for the From a maintainers / release managers point of view, here is a small checklist for evaluating if a commit is suitable:
If you encounter a commit which you can not deal with immediately, please set the https://github.com/graphite-project/graphite-web/issues?milestone=4&page=1&state=open Also, again, what do you guys use in production? Also does anyone feel like we need, or would prefer to have a mailinglist for this project. I sometimes miss being able to answer in-line when discussing with github issues? |
@esc FWIW we are currently running the 0.9.x branch in production with a handful of patches that I have created pull requests for to be considered for merging. Would you like the 0.9.13 candidate pull requests highlighted here in this thread, tag those with permissions in the actual PRs, or highlight them in some other way? I apologise if this is obvious, but I am new to both this project and Github. Also, should I include carbon and whisper PRs or are they handled by different people? |
No problem, by highlighting, i meant, just writing the name, e.g. Regarding whisper and carbon, I realized earlier today, that the current |
@steve-dave not sure yet who or how whisper and carbon will be handled. |
@esc Is there a deadline or target date? I've lost a couple of days to miscellaneous issues and haven't been able to go through the PRs yet... |
No, as long as we keep momentum, it will be ready when it is ready. Importantly, motion towards the release should not stagnate. |
Our docs builds have been failing on RTD since Aug 13. @gwaldo is this something you can help take a look at? |
Sure, I'll try to take a look today. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:19 PM, Jason Dixon [email protected]
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Looking into this for a little bit, the most plain errors are Looking at the last build to succeed, it looks like a very different style of information being presented. I just signed up for a readthedocs.org account. Does anything need to be done to add me to the RTD for Graphite so that I can see what options are available to manage it or engage with the RTD team? |
@gwaldo Added you as a project admin in RTD. |
Note that aside from the RTD docs build problem, graphite-project/whisper#136 is our last showstopper bug before the next 0.9.x release. |
Anyone have time to look at that RTD docs build failure for 0.9.x yet? That's the only blocker at this point. |
It looks like I found something, but I do not know how to fix it properly. I'm absolute novice in RTD, so... It seems that pip on RTD now honors setup.cfg settings, if it's located in same directory - that's why when RTD tries to run
in setup.cfg for 0.9.x - and fails. |
yay! |
I don't think there's anything holding up the 0.9.14 release except for tagging and building pypi packages. I made some small improvements to the docs the other day to address what I saw was a gap for the installation process (specifically, setting up the db). We still intend to rollout a new website, but it's not ready yet, and I don't want it to hold up the new release any longer. Aside from those things, anything else I'm overlooking? |
Can’t think of anything @obfuscurity :) |
Let 'er rip! |
There is a significant gut-and-rebuild of the docs that I want to do, but there's no reason to hold this up. I'll be happy to see this release. |
I've bumped the setup.py versions, tagged the 0.9.14 release, built new source distributions, and uploaded the releases to PyPi for graphite-web, carbon, and whisper. There needs to be a formal writeup somewhere (or better yet, automated), but for the time being here are the steps I performed:
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I would appreciate testing and feedback of the 0.9.14 pypi packages. P.S. Note that we have recently resumed work on the new website. With this will come the shutdown of the old wikidot site, improved docs (including "quickstarts"), and other goodies. But I felt it was in the project's best interest to not hold back 0.9.14 any longer. We will aim to ship the new site ASAP, but if it happened to coincide with a new release from P.P.S. Thanks to everyone's hard work and persistence for helping make this release a reality. |
P.P.P.S. I've also hidden the 0.9.13-pre1 packages on PyPi. |
Congrats! I'll test this out next week.
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We're also looking to bring our install up to current as well, so I'll be upgrading over the next couple weeks as well. |
Moving the discussion on fixture migrations over to #938. |
Note that I'm going to hide the pypi packages for 0.9.14 until a suitable upgrade path is identified. |
Disregard, it appears that the syncdb process for upgrading works fine. I'll update the docs. |
Updated the release notes for upgrading the database and including the release date (today). Re-tagged the release and generated a new source dist. Had to switch formats from tar.gz to zip for PyPI to allow the re-uploaded file (didn't realize this was a thing until now). Tested that pip install still works as expected. |
Ladies and gentlemen, Graphite 0.9.14 is officially released. |
For the sake of closing this issue out (oh dear god yes), I'm going to mark the "website" task complete even though it's clearly not. Trust me when I say we're working actively on this and I expect it to be out within the next 2-4 weeks. |
Nice! On 8 November 2015 03:43:36 CET, Jason Dixon [email protected] wrote:
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. |
How does everyone feel about cutting a new release? I think it's high time, there are many new features and several bugs that have been fixed. The questions that nag me is how to release? I couldn't find any maintainers notes anywhere and there are many small details to be taken care of. Let me sketch some bullet-points from my previous experience releasing software, these can serve as a skeleton to be expanded.
master0.9.xSome things to note:
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