CWT contest - DxStation should send 'R' after user's exchange is sent

[w7sst]

Description

In the CWops CWT Contest, when the DxStation responds to user's initial callback and exchange, the 'R' (exchange received) is not sent. Instead the calling station immediately sends its exchange (Name NR). This does not follow usual operating protocol. This was noted by Bob, @WR7Q, in our discussion (see #174).

Steps To Reproduce

1. CWT Contest
2. Start Single Calls
3. Answer the station calling by entering their callsign.
4. Observe their response does not contain an acknowledgement ('R') that they correctly copied the exchange.

Expected behavior

The calling station should respond with an 'R' to indicate they received my exchange.

Actual Behavior

The 'R' acknowledgement is missing. The station immediately starts sending their Name and Number/State/Province.

Reproduces how often

Always

Version information

• Morse Runner version: 1.82

Additional context

In discussions with Bob, he states they teach their CWT students to not send a report until the other station acknowledges receipt of exchange with an 'R'. This is also proper contest behavior.

[WR7Q]

Hi Mike, I may have confused you a bit. Let me try to clear this up!! What is currently happening in 1.82 in CWT contest: CWT op A calls cq B replies with B's call, name, op # (or whatever) A replies with A's call, name, op # (or whatever) What should happen is: CWT op A calls cq B replies with B's call A replies with B's call, A's name, op # (or whatever) B replies with B's name, op # (or whatever) There is never an 'R' in CWT contest. We do need the 'R' in CW WPX after the 'correct call' is entered by B, or after the 'correct call' is entered by B and after A sends NR? or AGN Sorry for the confusion and I hope this helps. 73, Bob WR7Q CWA Admin

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On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 12:31 AM Mike Brashler ***@***.***> wrote: Description In the CWops CWT Contest, when the DxStation responds to user's initial callback and exchange, the 'R' (exchange received) is not sent. Instead the calling station immediately sends its exchange (Name NR). This does not follow usual operating protocol. This was noted by Bob, @WR7Q <https://github.com/WR7Q>, in our discussion (see #174 <#174>). Steps To Reproduce 1. CWT Contest 2. Start Single Calls 3. Answer the station calling by entering their callsign. 4. Observe their response does not contain an acknowledgement ('R') that they correctly copied the exchange. Expected behavior The calling station should respond with an 'R' to indicate they received my exchange. Actual Behavior The 'R' acknowledgement is missing. The station immediately starts sending their Name and Number/State/Province. Reproduces how often Always Version information - Morse Runner version: 1.82 Additional context In discussions with Bob, he states they teach their CWT students to not send a report until the other station acknowledges receipt of exchange with an 'R'. This is also proper contest behavior. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#175>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ANIHTM2NMDDKTYTBZQ257ODWVYAUVANCNFSM6AAAAAAURATHCI> . You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[w7sst]

Bob, I think you are saying you disagree with this change to add the R in the response from caller B receives the report. In other words, the original CWT implementation (I.e. version 1.82) behavior was correct.

[w7sst]

@ct7aup David, do you have an opinion on this one?

[w7sst]

It seems really odd that a contest operator would not use an R to acknowledge receipt of the prior transmission. Are you saying that in CWT contest the R is never used?

[WR7Q]

Yes, this is a different kind of contest. Some times it is used along with other items like, '73', 'tnx Bob', etc. But I would suggest you leave it out of MR most of the time. You or someone may want to listen one of the Wednesdays of you have time. 73 Bob WR7Q

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On Sun, Feb 5, 2023, 23:45 Mike Brashler ***@***.***> wrote: It seems really odd that a contest operator would not use an R to acknowledge receipt of the prior transmission. Are you saying that in CWT contest the R is never used? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#175 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ANIHTM6RN5PMYEIU3HJIDZ3WWCMXZANCNFSM6AAAAAAURATHCI> . You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.***>