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Which inductor schematic symbol should we use? #503

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samreid opened this issue Sep 3, 2019 · 9 comments
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Which inductor schematic symbol should we use? #503

samreid opened this issue Sep 3, 2019 · 9 comments
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samreid commented Sep 3, 2019

I'm seeing several schematic symbols to represent inductors:

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To me, the "generic air-core" is the clearest, but the generic or IEC-style air cooled also seems fine to me.

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arouinfar commented Sep 3, 2019

The Java version of the sim uses an IEC-like symbol.
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Generally, the generic/air-core symbol seems most prevalent in the US. I checked 4 intro textbooks & Hyperphysics, and most use the generic/air-core symbol -- just 1 textbook used the IEC symbol.

That said, there have been a few requests to use the IEC symbol of a resistor (see #429), so we will likely get pushback for not using the IEC symbol for the inductor. In #429 (comment), I suggested that we could allow users to switch between IEEE and IEC symbols in the Options menu.

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samreid commented Oct 31, 2019

Maybe we could use ParametricSpringNode for one of these views.

From today's meeting, we would like to add a global options menu to select IEC vs IEEE. Defaults for 1.0 will be IEEE, since that is what we have been doing. Perhaps if we have an assistant, they can help with the different schematic shapes.

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samreid commented Oct 31, 2019

@kathy-phet also noted that it was tricky choosing a bulb schematic that matched our vertex layout. That may need to remain the same between IEEE/IEC

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samreid commented Oct 31, 2019

@kathy-phet points out that a query parameter should be able to select between these options.

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samreid commented Nov 2, 2019

https://www.ee.iitb.ac.in/~spilab/Tips/ansii_graphic_symbols_for_electrical_and_electronics_daigrams_1993.pdf is titled:

IEEE Standard
American National Standard
Canadian Standard
Graphic Symbols for Electrical and
Electronics Diagrams
(Including Reference Designation Letters)

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samreid commented Nov 2, 2019

Wikipedia shows:

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@arouinfar can you please review this and the preceding comment and let me know what you recommend for IEEE? I was confused about whether we are showing the magnetic core bars, or why the IEEE doc says "this symbol is deprecated and should not be used".

I'll also proceed in creating the IEC air-core schematic, since it seems it may also be the IEEE one or part of it.

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samreid commented Nov 3, 2019

I added this one:

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Unassigning until I hear back about the preceding comments.

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@samreid the schematic inductor looks good in master. I'll go ahead and close this issue since further discussion of the IEEE/IEC symbols belongs in #429.

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