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[otlp] UseOtlpExporter cross-cutting extension #5400
[otlp] UseOtlpExporter cross-cutting extension #5400
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Tagging: @davidfowl, @noahfalk |
Scenario 4 is where I think the API becomes a bit ugly. If you want to specify custom options per signal type, would it be better to just configure the OTLP exporter for that signal type with its own call to |
For scenario 4 I agree with Sam that the API seems more complex than AddOtlpExporter() per-signal. What if we just said global AddOtlpExporter() is only for cases 1,2, and 3 and anyone who wants (4) will need to call the signal specific AddOtlpExporter()? My suggestion is close to Sam's but without attempting to use global AddOtlpExporter() as a default config that can be overriden per-signal. I'd suggest that if users did this: appBuilder.Services.AddOpenTelemetry()
.ConfigureResource(r => r.AddService("MyService"))
.AddOtlpExporter(...)
.WithTracing()
.WithMetrics().AddOtlpExporter(...)
.WithLogging(); We just give them two exporters for the metrics pipeline, one with the global config and one with the local config. If both of the exporters are configured to send data to the same place perhaps we can give a warning or error unless there is some scenario where its reasonable you'd want exporters configured that way? For scenario 5 IMO it would be fine to say that users who don't want the OTLP exporter at the end of the pipeline shouldn't use the global AddOtlpExporter() method. Instead they would need to configure each pipeline individually in the order they want it. For scenario 6 I think its fine not to support it. If in the future you did want to support something like that perhaps this is the one that looks like Sam's suggested global defaults that are overriden per signal. Something like: appBuilder.Services.AddOpenTelemetry()
.ConfigureResource(r => r.AddService("MyService"))
.ConfigureOtlpExporterDefaults(...)
.WithTracing().AddOtlpExporter(...)
.WithMetrics().AddOtlpExporter(...)
.WithLogging().AddOtlpExporter(...); |
@CodeBlanch - I think this PR has gone way beyond what the .NET team was expecting, which is both a blessing and a curse. Can we simplify it down to just supporting scenarios 1, 2 & 3? For scenario 5 & 6, I don't think we were expecting the instancing to be changing as part of this request. I was expecting the I love the configuration aspect of scenario 3, but that could come as a later feature if required. We want this to land for Aspire GA and we are running out of runway. |
I'm open to anything. Originally my thinking was just to add
Today the story is simple:
Do you think the benefit in folding a few lines of code justifies mucking that story up? Especially given the ordering concerns. For context what I tried to do with this was make the story:
More or less set us up to obsolete the old stuff because there are a myriad of issues with it. PS: If is actually a bit nicer than that.Today the story is actually...
This PR is actually...
Why are signal-specific envvars not respected today? Tracing, metrics, & logging all use |
Unfortunately I think the clock is going to be the biggest limitation here as we want a solution that works nicely for Aspire. That technically only requires Scenario 1, but 2 & 3 are really nice to have. The deadline is March 22nd, so what can we deliver for that timeline, and deliver the other scenarios in later releases. |
My thoughts :)
The APIs today may have a simple premise, but it doesn't feel like that premise aligns with how customers intuitively conceptualize it. I expect many users initial concept is "I configure what telemetry to collect and where it should be sent" rather than "I configure three different telemetry pipelines from building blocks of sources, processors, and exporters". I think of this as "Make the code feel intuitive for users" rather than "Help users write fewer lines of code". My impression is that if we add the new API targeting at least scenarios 1,2 and 3 it makes getting started easier for most people and it adds a step in the learning curve when transitioning from the trivial scenarios to the customized pipeline cases. This feels like a net win to me, especially because I expect most developers will never need to handle those more complex cases. In order to ease the learning curve for the smaller number of folks who do need to cross over to the custom pipeline case I think we could be very explicit in the documentation and comments that pop up in IDE. Something like "This method is a shortcut that is equivalent to adding the OTLP exporter to the metrics, logging, and tracing pipelines individually. No signal specific customization APIs are available when using this shortcut. If you need those customizations, use AddOtlpExporter() on the TracerProviderBuilder, MeterProviderBuilder, and LoggingProviderBuilder instead of using this method."
I think the general principle of 'obsolete the old stuff so we can fix serious design problems' is fine. If you still want to support the advanced scenarios of per-signal pipelines where ordering matters and the OTLP exporter needs to not be at the end, that feels a rough fit for this global AddOtlpExporter() method to handle. I think if you wanted to fully obsolete and replace then probably some per-signal OTLP method is needed for those particularly complex scenarios. I'm also guessing that represents one of the most complex cases that is rarely used so it doesn't need to be treated with the same priority.
As a quick check, is an OTel change prior to March 22nd potentially in the cards? I don't recall your ship schedule to know if there is a new official build of OTel planned to go out before that date? |
I just pushed updates after bouncing ideas off a bunch of different folks:
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@CodeBlanch can you please add a scenario to clarify the expected behavior when both For example: appBuilder.Services.AddOpenTelemetry()
.ConfigureResource(r => r.AddService("MyService"))
.UseOtlpExporter()
.WithTracing(tracing => tracing
.AddAspNetCoreInstrumentation()
.AddProcessor(new MyRedactionProcessor)
.AddConsoleExporter()); Specifically, I want to make sure folks understand the ordering challenge, and some scenarios might not work as most users would imagine. For example: https://github.com/open-telemetry/opentelemetry-dotnet-contrib/tree/main/src/OpenTelemetry.Extensions |
@reyang Added to PR description |
Now the proposal looks good to me. |
Fixes #4940
Relates to #5325
Changes
UseOtlpExporter
extension targetingIOpenTelemetryBuilder
. This extension behaves as follows:OtlpExporter
for logging, metrics, & tracing at the end of the processor pipeline for logs & tracing.AddSource
\AddMeter
are still required to listen when using tracing & metrics.UseOtlpExporter
will result inNotSupportedException
being thrown.AddOtlpExporter
extensions to throwNotSupportedException
once called.UseOtlpExporter
.Scenarios
Scenario 1:
Add OtlpExporter for all signals (at the end of pipelines) using defaults + envvars to do configuration:
Scenario 2:
Add OtlpExporter for all signals (at the end of pipelines) and specify common settings:
Scenario 3:
Use the cross-cutting UseOtlpExporter method with some pipeline customizations.
This call order...
...will result in a tracing processor pipeline like this:
MyRedactionProcessor -> SimpleExportProcessor[ConsoleExporter] -> BatchExportProcessor[OtlpExporter]
Because
UseOtlpExporter
adds its processor/exporter to the end of the pipeline.There will be some things which won't work as a result. Such as AutoFlushActivityProcessor, which needs to be at the end.
Merge requirement checklist
CHANGELOG.md
files updated for non-trivial changes