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Reading large data (binary, text) asynchronously is extremely slow #593
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Cannot see much relation to #245 really. |
Here is the result of the test at NetCore & Netfx: BenchmarkDotNet=v0.12.1, OS=Windows 10.0.18362.657 (1903/May2019Update/19H1)
Intel Core i7-8665U CPU 1.90GHz (Coffee Lake), 1 CPU, 8 logical and 4 physical cores
[Host] : .NET Framework 4.8 (4.8.4121.0), X64 RyuJIT [AttachedDebugger]
Job-TUQHOY : .NET Framework 4.8 (4.8.4121.0), X64 RyuJIT
IterationCount=10 LaunchCount=1 WarmupCount=10
BenchmarkDotNet=v0.12.1, OS=Windows 10.0.18362.657 (1903/May2019Update/19H1)
Intel Core i7-8665U CPU 1.90GHz (Coffee Lake), 1 CPU, 8 logical and 4 physical cores
.NET Core SDK=3.1.202
[Host] : .NET Core 3.1.4 (CoreCLR 4.700.20.20201, CoreFX 4.700.20.22101), X64 RyuJIT
Job-LXIUHK : .NET Core 3.1.4 (CoreCLR 4.700.20.20201, CoreFX 4.700.20.22101), X64 RyuJIT
IterationCount=10 LaunchCount=1 WarmupCount=10
BenchmarkDotNet=v0.12.1, OS=Windows 10.0.18362.657 (1903/May2019Update/19H1)
Intel Core i7-8665U CPU 1.90GHz (Coffee Lake), 1 CPU, 8 logical and 4 physical cores
.NET Core SDK=3.1.202
[Host] : .NET Core 3.1.4 (CoreCLR 4.700.20.20201, CoreFX 4.700.20.22101), X64 RyuJIT
Job-OTAQAT : .NET Core 3.1.4 (CoreCLR 4.700.20.20201, CoreFX 4.700.20.22101), X64 RyuJIT
IterationCount=10 LaunchCount=1 WarmupCount=10
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Working from memory here. Reading a MAX defined field will mean using chunked returns and the complete length of the field may not be known ahead of time so the optimization I put in place for reading won't help. If that's right then you'll see the same horrific escalating performance with increased data sizes as the reader continuously allocates and releases the temporary buffers, those GC numbers seem to support that. It might be possible to do adapt the cached buffer we've got for multipacket known lengths to work like a list and auto expand as we go. What I can't do is prevent the repeated rescanning of the async packet queue. |
I've had a look into the profiles and I was wrong. The optimization from #245 is being used because it's reading as PLP data. The excessive memory usage is caused mostly by input packet buffers on the TDS side being lost into the snapshot packet chain. The time escalation is cause by the snapshot chain repeatedly being replayed. The only currently available mitigations are to increase the packet size to as close to 16K as you can get or to use a stream reader mode which should work on a per-packet basis and not buffer the entire contents (I'm a bit hazy on that for async, it probably needs checking). The long term fix would be to rewrite async reads to avoid replaying the entire packet chain on every receipt. This is akin to brain surgery. I've looked into this while reviewing other performance issues around async and it isn't something to attempt lightly and if I managed it solo and dropped a PR for it the team they may all justifiably quit in protest. The |
Oh, and this in System.Data.Common causes about 1/3 of the allocations and really isn't helpful. We already use type workarounds with an overlay type to access the single value field directly to create SqlBinary instances so we could do the same to get it out but we'd then be handing the user a direct reference to a mutable array instead of a copy an I've no doubt that some idiot somewhere in the world is relying on the copy semantic to make their code work. |
You're referring to the fact that the binary data is copied out into an array that's given to the user, right? If so, isn't that the same between sync and async? In any case, that's indeed a lot of allocations, but the alternative would be to return memory that's owned by SqlClient, right? If I'm understanding things right, that would mean that if the user reads the next row, the reference they get would suddenly start pointing to a totally different value... I did think about this at some point as an advanced/high-perf/"unsafe" API in dotnet/runtime#24899 - but that's tricky because of the lifetime issue, and also because the entire binary data isn't necessarily in memory if CommandBehavior.Sequential is used (as it should if values are big). Anyway, all that stuff is less important than making async at least perform similar to sync... |
Yes, and yes.
Each row of data is stored in an array of SqlBuffer instances stored in the reader, The SqlBuffer type is a discriminated union and it'll hold a reference to an SqlBinary. When you move row or move field in sequential mode the buffer instance is dropped to the GC. The backing byte[] array inside SqlBinary is not re-used. If we returned the array directly it would only have an effect on multiple reads of the same field in the same row and the only way to observe a change of behaviour would be to change the contents of the array and then re-request it from the reader. It's a pretty clear optimization that I'd like to be able to make but I'm pretty sure I can't because someone will have relied on it returning a new array each time. As you suggest the ideal approach would be to use a ReadOnlyMemory then it'd all be safe but that'll require a runtime api change and for all providers to consume it.
The entire array is skipped in Sequential mode if the field is not requested, as you say.
I can sort of understand how it might be done but it's daunting and difficult. |
Wouldn't it be possible for a provider to simply support
I can certainly understand (and appreciate) that, and I'm definitely not suggesting anyone do anything specific (was just reporting the problem). Along with #547 and possibly other async-related issues, it seems that at least documenting these limitations could help users avoid pitfalls. BTW do you think there are any workarounds to this, besides switching to sync? |
I hadn't considered that, nice idea. Currently the only workaround I can think of is to use a stream read overload because I think those drive the parser per-packet directly so you don't have to replay the packet queue, that'll need verifying. |
That at least sounds like a good workaround if it works! Definitely worth benchmarking that. |
Unless I've got something very wrong it won't work because there's a bug. using var conn = new SqlConnection(ConnectionString);
using var cmd = new SqlCommand("SELECT foo FROM data", conn);
await conn.OpenAsync();
using var reader = await cmd.ExecuteReaderAsync(
System.Data.CommandBehavior.SequentialAccess
);
await reader.ReadAsync();
using var stream = reader.GetStream(0);
using var memory = new MemoryStream(16 * 1024);
await stream.CopyToAsync(memory);
return (int)memory.Length; This should work but freezes in a task wait after a single read cycle, the second read never completed. IF you change it to standard mode it'll work but it does so by fetching the entire field and giving you a reader over the byte[]. So no workaround, this needs fixing if the team agree that it's a bug. |
Thanks for testing this... Definitely looks like a bug to me.
Is this at least fast - in the sense that it resembles the sync perf rather than the async? If so it's at least a workaround, even if not ideal... |
So no. The only way to get the speed benefit Is to put the reader in sequential mode. SqlClient/src/Microsoft.Data.SqlClient/netcore/src/Microsoft/Data/SqlClient/SqlDataReader.cs Line 1557 in f2fd632
There's also an interesting comment elsewhere in the file that says streaming isn't supported when using encryption. I think that makes streaming unusable for a generic consumer like EFCore because you'll have to special case it per driver. We need to fix the sequential stream issue and then we need to rewrite async reads. |
Thanks for the details @Wraith2. |
With the fix in #603 the numbers are better:
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That looks quite good, at the very least you can point people to a workaround. |
This is FOSS contribution for me. The PR is stuck because I can't replicate the test issue, if you can help replicate (or even better, resolve) the test issue then the fix can get merged sooner and then I can get part 3 started which is what will fix this issue. |
@SimonCropp Note that @Wraith2 is not a Microsoft employee, just an OSS contributor. |
Is Microsoft not expected to take some responsibility? |
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This issue is a priority for MS and is very visible. It's just been a difficult one to address. I'm certainly appreciative of @Wraith2 's contributions to try and address it. I try to get attention on it whenever I can. The workaround is to use sync for large types. |
that is only a valid workaround if the top level app owns all the sql related code. It is much more difficult to convince sql related libraries to apply the same workaround |
And, to be fair, it is a completely reasonable work-around that has been getting me by for 4 years now in our core framework. I feel the async method implementation should for now simply wrap the sync method implementation. Move the dangerous code to the side and swap out the implementation when it's ready. It is what I would do. I doubt we'd even be having these conversations if this was done. Alternatively, if it hasn't already been done, document the heck out of it. Use XML documentation and online documentation making it extremely clear to consumers the dangers/limitations of the current implementation. For me the journey started in the distributed sql cache framework provided by Microsoft, which I have no control over. It wasn't obvious where the problem was and I remember literally spending hours on this issue chasing an unstable production system. |
That would be async over sync which would cause thread exhaustion problems. Performance on long values was already increased greatly by #2164 so if you're on a version of SqlClient from the last year you're on the cm32 line on this graph where you used to be on the cm31 line It will eventually get to be mostly equal to sync in terms of speed but as I've already said I'm having difficulty with a complex test failure I can't reproduce and no-one else seems to be able to debug. |
@Wraith2 which issue is that? I'm running into this issue quite frequently so I could potentially help out. |
Wow, that's certainly better. So I'm picturing both options not great for web servers handling large traffic loads. I can't imagine the thread exhaustion problem being more significant than the CPU/memory bottlenecks that are introduced? |
Thread exhaustion can be quite dramatic. Everything stops including other async calls not related to any sql because their callbacks aren't schedulable, thread exhaustion is a process wide problem. Slow queries only affects code actively running queries so it's much better. |
Fair enough. I certainly have a lot of experience with optimising CPU/memory bottlenecks, and very little with threadpool starvation, although I have been using async/await since the very early days so may have dodged it. Which brings us back to square one, there is no perfect solution at this point. Honestly this is the type of problem I would genuinely to spend hours solving, but it'd be a hard sell running past my boss. |
We had to deal with it for a few months. What misled us was our assumption that the async issue only applies to reading large data. As it appears, that's not the case. Here are some details of our use case. The application performs extremely frequent short calls to read a small amount of data via a stored procedure. SPROC duration is, on average, 3 msec. We had a limit of 100 connections, which later was divided into 20 dedicated connections for writes and 80 for reads. Our trouble was always with the reads, which were timing out badly. When more investigation took place on the SQL Server side, it was noticed that we're running out of connections. Once the code was modified solely to use synchronous querying instead of asynchronous, the connection issue disappeared, and performance was restored. It seems like there's an issue with asynchronous API and connection pooling. I'm not an expert in claiming that, but that's what it looks like. Hopefully, this information helps. |
@SeanFeldman Is your app running on Azure App Service? It looks like it could be SNAT exhaustion. The maximum SNAT connection limit depends on the VM size. In our case, it was 128. We resolved the issue by integrating our App Service into a VNet. @Wraith2 Great job on async-cm32. We had numerous issues and downtimes with our app, and we had to switch to synchronous. Sinc 5.2.0 we'Re back on async. It's working much better now. Are there any improvements expected in this area for version 6? |
Watch Wraith's #2714 PR. Just trying to work out the bugs over there. There seem to be some edge case failures that are difficult to pin down. |
@inloox-dev it doesn't. It's doesn't. However, the issue is not the number of connections. Notice that the connections went down when we switched from async to sync API. |
Finally it seems to bubble up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iuUh0BIAuE |
We're in the process of fixing the issue. What more attention do you want? |
@Wraith2 I'm sorry, I'm not complaining about anybody who helps with this issue. I am grateful that with the modifications you made sync and async are getting more equal in terms of performance. However I had a number of jobs and somehow it is a constant struggle convincing people to not do async blob related work. The main thing is, MSSql is a Microsoft product, the .Net stack is driven by Microsoft, but somehow there exists a huge performance issue that takes years to plan/resolve... I think there is an issue with not recognizing the impact of this issue. That youtube post at least gives me something where I can redirect colleagues to. |
I could write up a blog post with the history and details if you want. |
I'd rather you just keep working on the (super duper amazing) pull's to fix the perf. 😄 |
What's the consensus around backporting cm32 to v5.1? It feels like a lot of the times this issue is re-raised come from using v5.1 because it's the most recent LTS release (either directly, or via EF Core.) Even assuming that v6.0 will be an LTS release, there's still another year of support left for v5.1. I'm happy to perform that backport, but I can see a chain of nine PRs which look like they contributed to (or were prerequisites of) the v5.2 fix. That's a larger set of changes than v5.1's been serviced with before, and I'm conscious that soon the situation might change and people could update to v6.0 without stepping off the LTS train. The PRs I'm looking at are #1866; #1544; #2121; #2122; #2126; #2132; #2144; #2157; #2164. Would this safely cover cm32 and its prerequisites @Wraith2 ? |
Don't do it. Users expect 5.1.x to be stable. Spend effort on 6.0 and 6.1 / 7.0 instead. Users can easily opt in to use 5.2.2 or 6.0 |
What users need is a stable version with the cm32 changes and 6 seems like the best way to do that. Unless there is some reason user may not be able to migrate from 5.1 to 6.0 I would suggest letting the changes go stable with 6.0. |
That makes sense, thanks. I can't think of any supportable speedbumps between 5.1 and 6.0, and an upgrade between two LTS versions seems like a fair enough way to get the changes... |
Reading a 10MB
VARBINARY(MAX)
value asynchronously takes around 5 seconds my machine, while doing the same synchronously takes around 20ms. Increasing the data size to 20MB increases the running time to around 52 seconds.These numbers were with Microsoft.Data.SqlClient 1.1.3, but 2.0.0-preview4.20142.4 has the same issue (it actually seems slightly slower). Note that I'm not posting final BDN results because the benchmark ran extremely slowly.
Note that this looks very similar to #245, but that issue was fixed for 1.1.0. The difference may be that here we're writing binary data - or possibly the bigger size.
Benchmark code
Originally raised in dotnet/efcore#21147
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