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Parallel/Redundant Versions Of Reactions #524
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@Devlin-Moyer thanks for reporting this, we will investigate this and reach you back later |
reformatted cases of reaction sets with different resolution as check box for downstream processing |
thank you very much @Devlin-Moyer! You are absolutely correct about the co-existence of low and high resolution reactions for pyruvate dehydrogenase, 2-oxoglutarate dehydrogenase, as well as glycine cleavage system. And this should be fixed. |
If choose to keep the high resolution reactions for these complexes, such as GCS, by splitting one to several sub-reactions, maybe their GPRs should also be shrinked to specific component (e.g. #529)? @Devlin-Moyer what do you think |
yea I think that would make sense, but I don't already know exactly which genes should catalyze each step. Also I'm not sure where we'd put structural components, like PDHX (ENSG00000110435; also known as "E3 binding protein"), which doesn't directly participate in catalysis of the PDH reaction, but still plays an important role in enabling high fluxes by keeping DLD near PDHB (ENSG00000168291). Ofc this would probably be pretty easy for the glycine cleavage system, since we know those genes are all enzymes that directly catalyze a specific step of the process and none are structural because they're all free-floating |
Regarding the two versions of high resolution reaction-sets for 2-oxoglutarate dehydrogenase complex: (MAR06411 + MAR06414 + MAR06409) and (MAR04209 + MAR06413 + MAR06414 + MAR06409). The only difference is that MAR06411 from the former is splitted into MAR04209 and MAR06413 in the latter, by introducing two metabolites: 3-carboxy-1-hydroxypropyl-ThPP and thiamin-PP. While 3-carboxy-1-hydroxypropyl-ThPP only occurs between these two reactions, thiamin-PP actually functions as cofactor, according to this paper. Therefore, it seems reasonable to remove the one step reaction, MAR05297, as well as the splitted two: MAR04209 and MAR06413. |
Likewise the case of MAR06409 (#529), some other sub-reactions should be modified/shrinked to more specific component in GPRs: please double check this @Devlin-Moyer @feiranl |
This might just be an annoying semantic point, but it feels relevant to point out that lipoamide is also a cofactor here; they're both bound to a subunit of the enzyme complex and aren't produced or consumed in the overall reaction. Is the point you're making that thiamin-PP goes in as thiamin-PP and comes out as thiamin-PP (i.e. exactly the same metabolite), while lipoamide goes in as lipoamide and then comes out as dihydrolipoamide, which needs DLD to turn it back into lipoamide while also reducing NAD+? While normal FBA would just have the thiamin-PP cycle between MAR04209 and MAR06413 without any meaningful impact on the rest of the network, I happened to come across this paper earlier this week, which introduces limed-FBA, in which case the thiamin-PP would actually do something. The idea with limed-FBA is to stop cycles from happening where no metabolites come in or out, and they accomplish this by adding a "dilution" reaction for each metabolite whose flux is constrained to be a small fraction of the sum of the absolute values of all the other fluxes involving that metabolite. So the argument for keeping MAR04209 and MAR06413 is that someone might want to use Human1 with something like limed-FBA to account for the fact that real cells cannot perfectly recycle their thiamin-PP indefinitely and occasionally need to replace it with new thiamine. Also, now feels like a good time to mention MAR08746: pyruvate[c] + thiamin-PP[c] + H+[c] -> 2-(alpha-hydroxyethyl)thiamine-diphosphate[c], with a GPR of (PDHA1 and PDHB) or (PDHA2 and PDHB). It was probably supposed to be a "higher resolution" version of the PDH reaction, like MAR04209 is for OGDH, but no other reactions involve 2-(alpha-hydroxyethyl)thiamine-diphosphate (MAM00561c), and it's in the wrong compartment (cytosol not mitochondria). Note how the top left of figure 1 from this paper and figure 2 from this paper show exactly the same structure as the page for MAM00561c. So anyway if you remove MAR04209 because of the way it involves thiamine, you should probably also remove MAR08746 and MAM00561c, and if you keep MAR04209, you might also want to fix MAR08746 by moving it to the mitochondrial compartment (which would also involve changing MAM00561c into MAM00561m) and adding another reaction to convert mitochondrial 2-(alpha-hydroxyethyl)thiamine-diphosphate and lipoamide into S-acetyldihydrolipoamide and thiamin-PP, i.e. MAM00561m + MAM02393m -> MAM02869m + MAM02984m |
The suggested GPRs for MAR06412 and MAR08433 look fine to me, but I would also add GCSH (ENSG00000140905) to the GPR of MAR08434, because diagrams of the GCS (e.g. figure 1 of this paper) always show the lipoamide bound to GCSH in every step |
nice citation - GPRs updated in 20961d5, please re-review #538 |
Again, any modification to HumanGEM should be evidence-based. To keep the super high resolution version by involving thiamine-PP to krebs cycle reactions, can you please provide more references supporting the necessity besides this paper, as well as the structure and broader involvement of intermediate enamine. |
This paper detected 2-hydroxyethyl-ThPP as an intermediate in the human PDH complex (see third paragraph of Results section and figure 1A). As did this paper; see the second paragraph in the "Kinetic Analysis of the E1 Decarboxylation Reaction under Single-Turnover Conditions by Quench Flow−1H NMR Spectroscopy" subsection. This paper observed 3-carboxy-1-hydroxypropyl-ThPP as an intermediate in the human OGDH complex; compare the structure in Scheme 1 labeled "C2-(alpha-hydroxy)-gamma-carboxypropylidene-ThPP" to this structure of 3-carboxy-1-hydroxypropyl-ThPP. I'm not entirely sure what evidence would support the notion that including these thiamin-PP intermediates is necessary; the reason I mentioned limed-FBA earlier was to point out that including them could be useful, and specifically that removing them could make Human-GEM less useful. |
Very nice!
these studies explicitly demonstrate that the pyruvate decarboxylation process catalyzed by PDH E1 component is thiamin diphosphate-dependent.
Overall, it seems the intermediate enamines involved in both PDH and OGDH processes are not structurally finalized, in contrast to 2-hydroxyethyl-ThPP (MAM00561c) and 3-carboxy-1-hydroxypropyl-ThPP (MAM00765m) in HumanGEM.
In addition to limed-FBA, inclusion of thiamin-PP intermediates may help in: |
@Devlin-Moyer just wonder if you have a chance to look into the situation of isocitrate dehydrogenase (ICDH) reactions, after PDH and OGDH? |
If you're asking if I think we need to alter the GPRs for any of the IDH reactions to represent which specific subunits catalyze each step, we do not need to make any such changes; IDH1 and IDH2 both function as homodimers that are individually capable of catalyzing both steps in the conversion of citrate to isocitrate or vice versa (source), and you need all three subunits of IDH3 to be expressed (IDHA, IDHB, and IDHG) for full enzymatic activity (source), and the GPRs I proposed in #523 that you implemented in #525 already represent this accurately. |
Ah, yes indeed!
this might be a better option, which is consistent with having higher resolution reactions to OGDH and aconitase (citrate <-> isocitrate) reactions. |
fixed in #541 |
There are a number of cases where the "same" overall reaction is represented at multiple different levels of resolution in different reactions/series of reactions:
The existence of these parallel/duplicate/redundant representations of the "same" overall reaction often causes problems for me (I'm working on a new method for incorporating expression data into a generic GEM to create context-specific GEMs), so I usually block or remove the "lower-resolution" versions of these reactions. I don't know enough about the rationale/criteria/thought process behind the curation of Human1 to know if the "lower resolution" reactions
should be removed, if the "higher resolution" reactions
should be removed, or if it's fine to keep all of them.
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