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Add Primary, Secondary, and Final Energy to the ontology #390

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[A] new term Including new term(s) in the ontology Energy carriers and fuels oeo-physical changes the oeo-physical module stale already discussed issues that haven't got worked on for a while

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Description of the issue

The distinction between primary, secondary, and final energy and energy carriers is widely used in energy statistics and modelling. It needs to be reflected in the ontology.
Issue #372 proposes to define energy transformations as "a transformation process from the primary energy source X into a secondary energy form."

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Primary/secondary/final energy would be a subclass of energy (currently at specifically dependent continuantquality).

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Primary Energy

Primary Energy is energy that is contained in fuels within the biosphere and natural reserves, or captured from natural energy flows, in a suitable form for use. Inert matter removed from the extracted fuels and quantities re-injected, flared or vented are not included.

— adapted from United Nations. International Recommendations for Energy Statistics. 154 https://unstats.un.org/unsd/energystats/methodology/ires/ (2018), paragraph 5.10

Secondary Energy

Secondary Energy is energy that has been converted from primary energy or a different form of secondary energy.

— adapted from United Nations. International Recommendations for Energy Statistics. 154 https://unstats.un.org/unsd/energystats/methodology/ires/ (2018), paragraph 5.10

Final Energy

Final Energy is energy that is delivered to energy consumers for their use.

— adapted from United Nations. International Recommendations for Energy Statistics. 154 https://unstats.un.org/unsd/energystats/methodology/ires/ (2018), paragraph 5.22

There is no class for energy carriers but a energy carrier disposition (specifically dependent continuantrealizable entitydisposition). So there could be primary/secondary/final energy carrier dispositions.

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@0UmfHxcvx5J7JoaOhFSs5mncnisTJJ6q 0UmfHxcvx5J7JoaOhFSs5mncnisTJJ6q added the [A] new term Including new term(s) in the ontology label May 7, 2020
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l-emele commented May 20, 2020

I don't think that primary, secondary and final energy consumption are subclasses of the energy carrier disposition but I think that these are energy quantities.

But this issue only deals with primary, secondary and final energy and not the consumptions of these, right?

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There is no class for energy carriers but a energy carrier disposition (specifically dependent continuantrealizable entitydisposition). So there could be primary/secondary/final energy carrier dispositions.

If we directly include them and not the consumption of them as @l-emele asked, I like the idea of having them as disposition or quality because if I understand it correctly these are not really subclasses of energy but "states" of the process of energy consumption/ production?

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But this issue only deals with primary, secondary and final energy and not the consumptions of these, right?

Both. There's little value in discussing energy without discussing where it comes from and where it goes to.


these are not really subclasses of energy but "states" of the process of energy consumption/ production

I have no idea what the state of a process is supposed to be.
Energy carriers are grouped into primary/secondary/final energy carriers, depending on their origin and their use. The production and consumption of these energy carriers is collectively referred to as production/consumption of primary/secondary/final energy.

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l-emele commented May 23, 2020

these are not really subclasses of energy but "states" of the process of energy consumption/ production

Yes exactly. And an energy carrier can be primary and final at the same time. One example is coal. It is definitely a primary energy carrier as coal occurs naturally. But it can also used as it is in industry, hence it is a final energy carrier. As it does not need to be transformed before the final use, it is not a secondary energy carrier in this case.

So at least the "final energy" is not only dependent on the energy carrier itself, but also on the context of the use.

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l-emele commented Jun 5, 2020

I just read the definitions/descriptions from the IPCC:

Primary fuels: Fuels which are extracted directly from natural resources. Examples are: crude oil, natural gas, coals, etc.
Secondary fuels: Fuels manufactured from primary fuels. Examples are: cokes, motor gasoline and coke oven gas, blast furnace gas.
(Glossary of the 2019 Refinement to the 2006 IPCC Guidelines for National Greenhouse Gas Inventories)

Now I am asking myself: Are the properties primary and final really properties of the energy? Or rather properties of the energy carriers?

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akleinau commented Jun 9, 2020

Yes these definitions definitely mean the energy carriers. They define primary/ secondary fuels and not energy though so we have to decide which (or both) to implement.
Having the fuels definitely makes sense to me, do we need the energy types too?

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And an energy carrier can be primary and final at the same time. One example
is coal. It is definitely a primary energy carrier as coal occurs naturally.
But it can also used as it is in industry, hence it is a final energy
carrier. As it does not need to be transformed before the final use, it is
not a secondary energy carrier in this case.

But there is a transformation. Coal (primary energy) is available at the coal
mine, while coal (final energy) is used at the power plant, which may be right
next to the mine (think lignite) or across the Pacifc (think Autralian coal
shipped to Japan). This transformation will have losses, e.g. coal falling of
the railway car.
In the context of IAMs, it is common to imply a "virual" transformation like
this and the "same" coal would be referenced twice, as Primary Energy|Coal
and as Final Energy|Solids.

So I'm not suggesting that energy carriers are grouped exclusively into
primary/secondary/final energy in the ontology. And the subdivision could
actually be automatic and orthogonal on energy carrier and energy type. So
each energy carrier could be a primary, secondary, or final energy carrier,
whether they are used or not.


Having the fuels definitely makes sense to me, do we need the energy types
too?

Having subdivisions by fuels/energy carriers is not sufficient, since in the
future an increasing share of primary energy will have no energy carrier (wind,
solar).

Energy types on the other hand is what is used by models (IAMs at least) and
energy statistics. So it has to be in the ontology.

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l-emele commented Jun 30, 2020

We distinguish between energy carriers (or to be precise energy carrier disposition) and fuels. Wind and solar are not fuels but have the energy carrier disposition.

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l-emele commented Aug 19, 2020

We have to distinguish between:

For the v.1.1 release we need only the consumptions.

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akleinau commented Oct 7, 2020

We have to distinguish between:

* Primary/final energy **carrier**

* Primary/final energy **consumption** (which is related #140)

* Primary energy **production**

For the v.1.1 release we need only the consumptions.

then we should split this issue into several issues, one for each topic. Consumption should wait for the #140 discussion to be finished

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I opened two new issues, one for the consumption part and another for the energy carrier disposition part. The term primary energy production already got implemented in #77
Is there anything else we need for this issue?

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Since we are covering this in other issues, I'll close this issue.

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