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Allow notifications and actions to specify a navigable URL #213
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1 or 2 minor changes are fine but getting more starts to be annoying, especially if we get multiple review rounds... 😛 Should we also fold in some part of #204 here? Non-persistent notification with a URL certainly has a valid action to do even if the page is closed. |
(Interesting that we are currently not telling what action is invoked for non-persistent notifications, per the existing steps) |
A parallel question, is WebKit going to implement actions? |
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Having a way to bound to a tab might affect the API usage quite a bit. Needing to open a tab all the time even if the site was already open would be a bit annoying. But perhaps you've had some other types of use cases in mind. In which way do you imagine one to use only the URL + new top level navigable? |
This feature is part of w3c/push-api#360 to enable fully declarative push notifications. Perhaps it should not be allowed for cc @beidson |
We should probably also consider not always opening a new tab for declarative push, btw. |
Yeah we'll think about it and are of course also happy to consider concrete proposals. I suspect that anything we decide to do can easily go on top of this, so I'm not sure I'd consider it blocking. |
Brady pointed out to me that we already reuse an existing tab if there is one. I don't think HTML has a good primitive for that, but I'll see about adjusting the wording to allow for that. Thanks for pointing it out! (I guess that raises the question as to whether there should be a feature to force a new window, but that's probably best deferred.) |
Hmmmm, in that case I would be interested to learn more about the tab selection algorithm. |
This introduces a new feature whereby push messages conforming to a certain JSON format directly create an end user notification and show it (possibly preceded by a new pushnotification event). In addition to showing a notification, the app badge can be updated as well. This builds on whatwg/notifications#213 which adds URL members to notifications. Exposing PushManager outside of service workers will be done in a separate change.
Hey Anne, this seems good to us. I've two thoughts -
Perhaps |
Also - we don't have good metrics on use between |
I think the policy we end up using in Safari is roughly reuse a tab with the same URL. There's a number of corner cases to imagine where such a vague notion could fall apart, but I'm also not sure we should try to nail it down in detail as I think we want this to be a little flexible to allow changes to it in the future and also because it fundamentally is also part of the overall end user experience. I could see renaming (Also, thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts Peter, much appreciated! And I hope all is well.) |
No strong feelings, but that (or For the internal slot, it does seem that something more specific than "URL" would be helpful for clarity. |
Needed by the Notifications API: whatwg/notifications#213.
Now that URLPattern is an available primitive, one could imagine letting the site provide a (bounded) list of URLPatterns in precedence order to help with the tab selection. |
Might want to block some tabs from being navigated, in case the state can't be recovered there. (Some form with no backing storage, or some in-progress page either for authentication or payment, etc.) Edit: Or a safelist, maybe passing a safelist can be a signal for an explicit opt-in for existing tab navigation (and open a new tab by default without it) |
Those seem like reasonable ideas, but I think we should only consider adding complexity once we see significant web developer demand for more fine-grained control. |
Might make sense to make |
That seems a little premature? We could always overload once we establish we need the complexity, no? "Baby steps" and all that. |
If we are going to only ship one extra member, sure. I wonder we should make the tab selection optional if we are going to do an implementation detailed magic there though. |
Needed by the Notifications API: whatwg/notifications#213.
<var>navigationURL</var> with <a for=url/equals><i>exclude fragments</i></a> set to true, then | ||
<a for=/>navigate</a> <var>traversable</var> to <var>navigationURL</var> and return. If there are | ||
multiple <a for=/>top-level traversables</a> that satisfy the condition the user agent has to | ||
pick one in an <a>implementation-defined</a> manner. |
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Given "losing the data by accidental navigation" is an existing problem with existing solution, Mozilla is against letting this fully implementation defined. We prefer to giving some basic heuristic to prevent it (using beforunload as an opt-out signal, for example), unless there's a proof that selecting random traversable will not cause a problem.
Here's our suggested revision:
- Let |traversables| be the user agent’s top-level traversable set whose active document’s URL equals |navigationURL| with exclude fragments set to true. (This part is copied from the PR, but see the above comment)
- Let |selected| be null.
- For each |traversable| in |traversables|,
- If |traversable| needs beforeunload, continue.
- Let |activeDocument| be |traversable|'s active document.
- Let |focusState| be the result of running the [has focus steps] with |activeDocument| as the argument.
- If |focusState| is true, let |selected| be |traversable| and break.
- If |activeDocument|'s visibility state is "visible", let |selected| be |traversable| and break.
- If |selected| is null and |traversables| is not empty, let |selected| be the first item of |traversables|.
- If |selected| is null,
- Create a fresh top-level traversable given |navigationURL| and return.
- Navigate |selected| to |navigationURL|.
- Run the focusing steps with |selected|.
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If the website is not robust against navigation, wouldn't they simply mint a new URL?
<li><p>If there is an existing <a for=/>top-level traversable</a> <var>traversable</var> within | ||
the user agent's <a for="user agent">top-level traversable set</a> whose | ||
<a for="navigable">active document</a>'s <a for=Document>URL</a> <a for=url>equals</a> | ||
<var>navigationURL</var> with <a for=url/equals><i>exclude fragments</i></a> set to true, then |
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Wouldn't this always compare the full path? Should we have some base path to compare instead? Otherwise I think each click would effectively always open a new tab unless the user already has a tab for the exact same URL. (e.g. think of Mastodon where each notification has a different URL for each post)
Having a base URL would be useful for Slack example, as the URL is https://app.slack.com/client/(workspace)/(channel)
, and the notification would pass https://app.slack.com/client/(workspace)
as the base url to only match the same workspace.
(It could use URLPattern as @asutherland already mentioned)
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I think Slack would probably opt to handle the notification in its service worker if there is one, using this as fallback. Perhaps over time we can address more use cases here, but having some deployment experience first would help a lot with that.
Now I'm confused, I was assuming that the new intention is to reuse the existing tabs, and the full URL comparison was accidental. It seems the intention is actually to reuse only if the URL is exactly the same of one of the existing tabs and open new tab for anything else. Not sure how that's strictly useful than just open new tab for everything for V1, given a lot of existing use cases assign a new URL for each notification because a notification frequently means there's a new content (e.g. Mastodon, Twitter, YouTube, Slack, Instagram, etc.. Chat apps may have higher frequency of having same URL but still with severely limited chance.) |
Needed by the Notifications API: whatwg/notifications#213.
This introduces a new feature whereby push messages conforming to a certain JSON format directly create an end user notification and show it (possibly preceded by a new pushnotification event). In addition to showing a notification, the app badge can be updated as well. This builds on whatwg/notifications#213 which adds URL members to notifications. Exposing PushManager outside of service workers will be done in a separate change.
This makes notifications more declarative by not requiring explicit handling of the clicks by the web application. This is part of the Declarative Web Push effort: w3c/push-api#360.
This makes notifications more declarative by not requiring explicit handling of the clicks by the web application.
This change is part of a larger Declarative Web Push effort, but can hopefully land in isolation as a small incremental step toward that goal.
(See WHATWG Working Mode: Changes for more details.)
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