ChainJS Grant application #228

mblinder · 2021-01-27T17:56:04Z

Grant Application Checklist

The application-template.md has been copied, renamed ( "project_name.md") and updated.
A BTC or Ethereum address for the payment of the milestones is provided inside the application.
The software of the project will be released under the Apache license version 2.0 as specified in the terms and conditions.
The total funding amount of the project is below USD $30k for initial grant applications and $100k for follow-up grants at the time of submission.
The initial PR contains only one commit (squash if needed before submitting your PR).
The grant will only be announced once we successfully delivered the first milestone.

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Adding ChainJS for Polkadot draft proposal

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CLAassistant · 2021-01-27T17:56:08Z

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Noc2

Thanks for the application! A few questions from my side:

Do you also plan to support Kusama or general substrate chains?
Do you plan to maintain the library on your own? Keeping polkadot-js uptodate is currently a lot of work with all the changes in our ecosystem.
Given that https://github.com/polkadot-js already covers a lot of things, the current application seems rather expensive to me. Could you potentially increase the scope or reduce the price?

Noc2 · 2021-02-10T09:08:10Z

I’m closing the application for now due to inactivity. Let me know once you are ready and if you want to reopen it.

Added Kusama support into the grant application, and added more description of the difference between ChainJS and Polkadot.js

mblinder · 2021-02-16T15:53:55Z

Updated content to include Kusama and added additional details.

Noc2 · 2021-02-23T08:49:55Z

Sorry for the late reply here and thanks for the update. However, it seems currently expensive to me. Could you not just more or less copy the https://github.com/polkadot-js implementation and change the code a little bit for your purpose and exclude certain functionality? 29,700 seems a lot for this. Also do you plan to maintain this library? Anyway, I will share the application already with the rest of the team.

mblinder · 2021-02-23T08:55:52Z

Yes - we will be maintaining the library for the future!

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On Feb 23, 2021, at 8:50 AM, David Hawig ***@***.***> wrote: Sorry for the late reply here and thanks for the update. However, it seems currently expensive to me. Could you not just more or less copy the https://github.com/polkadot-js implementation and change the code a little bit for your purpose and exclude certain functionality? 29,700 seems a lot for this. Also do you plan to maintain this library? Anyway, I will share the application already with the rest of the team. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe.

Noc2 · 2021-03-04T08:22:24Z

Any comments regarding the price? It seems the rest of the committee isn’t willing to support the application at this price either.

mblinder · 2021-03-04T08:30:00Z

Can you tell us the amount the committee is willing to fund for this project?

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Noc2 · 2021-03-04T08:52:14Z

Sorry, I don’t have a concrete number for you, since I don’t know what the others think is reasonable for this kind of work. To me personally, it just seems less work (than 2 FTE, 1 month) and the current day rate is already pretty expensive.

mblinder · 2021-03-04T08:57:02Z

I don’t think we can do it necessarily faster with all of the review and testing we do, however we can do it for $20k if that’s easier for you - it’s a much lower day rate that way.

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On Mar 4, 2021, at 8:52 AM, David Hawig ***@***.***> wrote: Sorry, I don’t have a concrete number for you, since I don’t know what the others think is reasonable for this kind of work. To me personally, it just seems less work (than 2 FTE, 1 month) and the current day rate is already pretty expensive. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#228 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAMMY3CSWY4FOOLGHDW4HP3TB5C43ANCNFSM4WVVYIYQ>.

semuelle · 2021-03-04T15:49:03Z

I like the concept of chainjs. And I see it has been actively developed over the past year. Two questions:

Since you mention ORE ID at the top of your application: I had a look at the whitepaper, and I'm wondering how the project manages to comply with GDPR. Could you explain that briefly? I thought that an application is in violation as soon as it stores any link between a public address and identifying information on a public blockchain.
Do you plan on integrating more blockchains after Polkadot & Kusama?

mblinder · 2021-03-04T15:52:38Z

Thank for the support! - ORE ID only stores public keys on chain. The off-chain access control of connecting a known login to a public key is forgettable. We’ve had a couple GDPR take down requests in the past. In that case the user’s public keys stay on chain, but the off-chain mapping is erased. - Yes, we’re talking to a few parachains, and we hope to add many different parachains in the long run. We also don’t support Bitcoin yet, and will likely do that soon!

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On Mar 4, 2021, at 3:49 PM, Sebastian Müller ***@***.***> wrote: I like the concept of chainjs. And I see it has been actively developed over the past year. Two questions: Since you mention ORE ID at the top of your application: I had a look at the whitepaper, and I'm wondering how the project manages to comply with GDPR. Could you explain that briefly? I thought that an application is in violation as soon as it stores any link between a public address and identifying information on a public blockchain. Do you plan on integrating more blockchains after Polkadot & Kusama? — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#228 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAMMY3AWXKQKWVEY447MSV3TB6TYFANCNFSM4WVVYIYQ>.

Noc2 · 2021-03-04T16:09:29Z

I don’t think we can do it necessarily faster with all of the review and testing we do, however we can do it for $20k if that’s easier for you - it’s a much lower day rate that way.

To be honest, it still seems expensive to me. Could you potentially reduce it even further? What kind of work do you need to do as part of the grant? Could you not just more or less copy the https://github.com/polkadot-js implementation and change the code a little bit for your purpose and exclude certain functionality?

alxs · 2021-06-15T13:27:53Z

Sounds good, thanks for the update! Please give us a quick heads-up if you can't finish by around the end of July.

mblinder · 2021-07-16T14:16:35Z

Hi All, We’ve hired the new engineer and we’re resuming work on the plug-in. Thanks for your patience! Marc — Marc Blinder // Chief Executive Officer △ AIKON △

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On Jun 15, 2021, at 11:02 AM, Marc Blinder ***@***.***> wrote: Apologies, the engineer who was working on this project got sick and had to leave the company. We’ve hired a new developer who will finish the work. We’re absolutely still going to support Polkadot and Kusama! — Marc Blinder // Chief Executive Officer △ AIKON △ > On Jun 15, 2021, at 10:10 AM, Aleixo Sánchez ***@***.***> wrote: > > > Hey @mblinder! Care to share a quick status update, along with an ETA if possible? We were hoping to receive your first delivery about 2 months ago now. As long as you're still working on the project, delays aren't a big problem, but if you're no longer interested we would terminate the grant. > > — > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. >

mblinder · 2021-07-16T15:02:47Z

We’re expecting to finish in August, but I don’t think it will be done in the next 2 weeks. Current status is: 90% Map Polkadot architecture to ChainJS 50% Implement manifest approach 25% Implement MVP for ChainJS plugin

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On Jun 15, 2021, at 2:28 PM, Aleixo Sánchez ***@***.***> wrote: Sounds good, thanks for the update! Please give us a quick heads-up if you can't finish by around end of July. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#228 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAMMY3EJ64R77ZI3NNY5I43TS5IOVANCNFSM4WVVYIYQ>.

alxs · 2021-07-17T15:44:06Z

@mblinder that's alright, thanks for keeping us in the loop.

mblinder · 2021-08-17T14:38:15Z

Hey Team - we’ve decided to wrap the entire ChainJS project in automated tests to ensure that it’s highly reliable when developers use it or edit it. This is going to take us longer, but we’re really committed to making this as bullet proof as possible.

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On Jul 17, 2021, at 4:44 PM, Aleixo Sánchez ***@***.***> wrote: @mblinder <https://github.com/mblinder> that's alright, thanks for keeping us in the loop. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#228 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAMMY3HRDY4UZHJMZGYVMOTTYGQNDANCNFSM4WVVYIYQ>.

alxs · 2021-08-17T15:08:13Z

Sounds good! Thanks for the update.

Could you submit an amendment to update the duration? Make it 5 months (if you delivered today) + however long you think you still need, or just add an ETA.

mblinder · 2021-08-17T16:34:39Z

Great - will do. Thanks for the flexibility.

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On Aug 17, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Aleixo Sánchez ***@***.***> wrote: Sounds good! Thanks for the update. Could you submit an amendment to update the duration? Make it 5 months (if you delivered today) + however long you think you still need, or just add an ETA. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#228 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAMMY3AQXWTO6DYWTBBP3G3T5J3OPANCNFSM4WVVYIYQ>.

mblinder · 2021-08-18T11:40:00Z

Updated and did a new PR

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On Aug 17, 2021, at 5:34 PM, Marc Blinder ***@***.***> wrote: Great - will do. Thanks for the flexibility. > On Aug 17, 2021, at 4:08 PM, Aleixo Sánchez ***@***.*** ***@***.***>> wrote: > > > Sounds good! Thanks for the update. > > Could you submit an amendment to update the duration? Make it 5 months (if you delivered today) + however long you think you still need, or just add an ETA. > > — > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#228 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAMMY3AQXWTO6DYWTBBP3G3T5J3OPANCNFSM4WVVYIYQ>. >

alxs · 2021-10-26T14:31:08Z

@mblinder according to the amendment you wanted to submit by mid-October, could you share the current status with us?

mblinder · 2021-11-03T13:06:12Z

Hi - we’ve been working on it, but there’s been a major rearchitecture to improve stability and usability. Can I update the timeline again?

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On Oct 26, 2021, at 3:31 PM, Aleixo Sánchez ***@***.***> wrote: @mblinder <https://github.com/mblinder> according to the amendment you wanted to submit by mid-October, could you share the current status with us? — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#228 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAMMY3CX22Z4DXNH2BAATVTUI3CUPANCNFSM4WVVYIYQ>.

alxs · 2021-11-04T08:10:36Z

Yes, please. Could you share your current work so far?

mblinder · 2021-11-09T15:39:41Z

Sure - here’s the repo, where you can see active work on the refactoring and testing: https://github.com/Open-Rights-Exchange/chain-js <https://github.com/Open-Rights-Exchange/chain-js> We’re doing that underlying work to make the framework more usable for developers and to make it easier for developers to offer changes via PRs. Once that’s done, we’ll upgrade the Polkadot and Kusama work and finish the grant. Here’s the original DOT / KSM work: Open-Rights-Exchange/chain-js#103 <Open-Rights-Exchange/chain-js#103>

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On Nov 4, 2021, at 8:10 AM, Aleixo Sánchez ***@***.***> wrote: Yes, please. Could you share your current work so far? — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#228 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAMMY3CZTTJMGI7YUSPCDUTUKI5YPANCNFSM4WVVYIYQ>.

alxs · 2021-11-11T12:30:19Z

Thanks, sounds good. Please go ahead and amend the timeline. Besides, please keep in mind that following up and reviewing the amendments takes up resources on our side, so we would expect you to stick to your timeline this time around.

mblinder · 2021-11-11T13:28:41Z

Totally agree and apologize. We’ll bake in extra time with this update, so it doesn’t happened again.

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On Nov 11, 2021, at 12:30 PM, Aleixo Sánchez ***@***.***> wrote: Thanks, sounds good. Please go ahead and amend the timeline. Besides, please keep in mind that following up and reviewing the amendments takes up resources on our side, so we would expect you to stick to your timeline this time around. — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#228 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAMMY3D4KQDH4TPKGESOKD3ULOZOPANCNFSM4WVVYIYQ>.

semuelle · 2022-05-17T20:17:03Z

Hey @mblinder. Just checking in here. Are you still planning to submit your milestone this month?

alxs · 2022-06-02T13:33:54Z

@mblinder please note we'll assume you're no longer interested and terminate the grant if we don't hear from you in the next two weeks.

mblinder · 2022-06-05T19:34:55Z

Hi Everyone - I’m so sorry for the delayed response. We’ve been experiencing a lot of growth recently and it’s delayed the work for this grant. We’re still eager to do this work for the Web 3 ecosystem and we’d love to deliver it later this year, but it will be many months to get to it. Are you okay with us pushing out again? — Marc Blinder // Chief Executive Officer △ AIKON △

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On Jun 2, 2022, at 2:34 PM, Aleixo Sanchez ***@***.***> wrote: @mblinder <https://github.com/mblinder> please note we'll assume you're no longer interested and terminate the grant if we don't hear from you in the next two weeks. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#228 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAMMY3HMFLMSYHUEFG56IIDVNCZ4ZANCNFSM4WVVYIYQ>. You are receiving this because you were mentioned.

alxs · 2022-06-08T16:48:28Z

@mblinder I think that should be fine, can you please submit another amendment?

mblinder · 2022-06-09T13:06:09Z

Yes - thank you! I’ll confirm with our team and get a concrete timeline. — Marc Blinder // Chief Executive Officer △ AIKON △

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On Jun 8, 2022, at 12:48 PM, Aleixo Sanchez ***@***.***> wrote: @mblinder I think that should be fine, can you please submit another amendment? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. You are receiving this because you were mentioned.

keeganquigley · 2023-03-09T21:59:05Z

Hi @mblinder are you able to give us an update on M1? I believe with the updated timeline the delivery would have been due a month or two ago. Thanks!

keeganquigley · 2023-04-17T16:40:37Z

Pinging @mblinder for a friendly reminder.

keeganquigley · 2023-05-11T17:40:34Z

Hi @mblinder please note that if we don't hear back from you after 2 weeks time, the committee will likely terminate this grant due to inactivity. Let me know if you have any questions.

mblinder · 2023-05-11T18:08:20Z

Apologies! We’re not able to get to this this year. I totally understand if you need to cancel the grant. — Marc Blinder CEO △ AIKON △

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On May 11, 2023, at 6:40 PM, Keegan | W3F ***@***.***> wrote: Hi @mblinder <https://github.com/mblinder> please note that if we don't hear back from you after 2 weeks time, the committee will likely terminate this grant due to inactivity. Let me know if you have any questions. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#228 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAMMY3F4U3ZPORO2XR244ETXFUQB3ANCNFSM4WVVYIYQ>. You are receiving this because you were mentioned.

keeganquigley · 2023-05-11T18:44:15Z

Thanks @mblinder no problem. I think it would be best to go ahead and cancel it, and it can always be re-opened should you decide to work on it again. Thanks for the update!

mblinder · 2023-05-11T18:45:16Z

Thank you - we still love what you’re doing and want to support in the long run! — Marc Blinder CEO △ AIKON △

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