Add naming guidance for blockquote, meter and time roles

[zcorpan]

Fixes #1077.

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The ARIA Authoring Practices (APG) Task Force just discussed Naming guidance for blockquote, meter and time roles.

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<Jemma> Topic: Naming guidance for blockquote, meter and time roles
<carmacleod> github: https://github.com//pull/1231
<Jemma> https://github.com//issues/1212
<carmacleod> mck: part of me is wondering whether we should discourage accessible label on these
<carmacleod> sarah: I agree that it's not a good pattern. Can we say that you can't name them?
<sarah_higley> ^ sorry, I was unclear. I meant "can we say you can't use aria-label on them?"
<carmacleod> mck: we don't think there's value labelling it unless there's a visible label (for blockquote and time)
<carmacleod> mck: trying to imagine real world examples of time - labelling it is probably just going to cause screen reader problems
<carmacleod> mck: blockquote - if there's a visible label, that would work ok in screen readers
<carmacleod> jamesn: I don't like the word "discretionary" in the table - it sounds to "positive"
<carmacleod> mck: used to have "Sometimes", "Never", "Occasionally", but that didn't work too well
<carmacleod> jamesn: Ok, let's not worry about the word.
<carmacleod> mck: we can discourage it in the comments if it's "Discretionary"
<Jemma> I think we need more strong guidance rather than discretion.
<Jemma> s/need/need to provide

[carmacleod]

@jongund I think your 2 comments above probably belong in PR #1109, which is about aria-level.

[carmacleod]

Looks good!

[mcking65]

Looks good now. Thank you!

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The ARIA Authoring Practices (APG) Task Force just discussed Naming guidance for blockquote, meter and time roles.

The full IRC log of that discussion

<MarkMccarthy> TOPIC: Naming guidance for blockquote, meter and time roles
<zcorpan> GitHub: https://github.com//pull/1231
<MarkMccarthy> Matt_King: zcorpan, could you share what we have?
<MarkMccarthy> zcorpan: yeah. the diff isn't so big for this, fortunately
<MarkMccarthy> zcorpan: there was an editorial change for the text which used to read "not supported by Assitive Technologies" under the time role
<MarkMccarthy> Matt_King: did you raise an issue with ARIA about prohibited naming etc.?
<MarkMccarthy> zcorpan: haven't done that yet
<MarkMccarthy> jamesn: you'll hit resistance on that, though I agree
<MarkMccarthy> Matt_King: well, we'll see what happens
<MarkMccarthy> Matt_King: jamesn, are you okay with what we have for blockquote now?
<MarkMccarthy> jamesn: sure, your explanation sounds reasonable
<MarkMccarthy> zcorpan: "if a visible label is present, associating with aria-labelled by could benefit AT users"
<MarkMccarthy> jamesn: sounds good
<MarkMccarthy> Matt_King: if people are in agreement, i'll merge. we have an approving review from carmacleod
<MarkMccarthy> zcorpan: nice!
<MarkMccarthy> Matt_King: no objections, so we'll move forward

[zcorpan]

@mcking65 I've filed w3c/aria#1117 on ARIA.