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Fighting Russian disinformation by distributing .md
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file with summary+facts to developers.md
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I'm asking internally if volunteers from https://isupportukraine.eu are able to do this. |
This is an awesome request. Let's make it happen. |
In my opinion, it can be multiple pages long, if needed, but it certainly needs a TL;DR at the top, with a strong call to action, or at least encourages reading further. |
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Most Russian citizens will likely never go on an international flight anyway (VISA requirements), so perhaps more lever on the fact that most internet access got restricted (almost everyone has internet, I suppose). Some potential inspiration: https://twitter.com/Raquel_emf/status/1499076426519224321 - I think calling Russians to action, highlighting the risk and the gains (saving lives) is also a good idea. |
Re airlines, this is something acknowledged and widely reported by Russian media right now. |
Maybe this could serve as an inspiration for the message as well.. https://1920.in |
@Ocramius not sure if it's |
I'm fine with including it - it's time-sensitive, so I'll get a bunch of releases done tonight on my own packages 👍 Thanks everyone for the speedy reaction: much appreciated. |
How do you plan to include this message? I'm also interested! |
@drupol just dropping it in, adding it to |
Ok, will most probably do the same. Thanks for the idea. |
@vshymanskyy I wonder if we can add the quote that "the world won't be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch without doing anything" or such? See this quote at 1:44:48: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfsiw2pf_Y0&time=1h44m48s |
Alright 👍 I'll go on with it as-is then 💪 |
Hi, t's https://github.com/vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine/blob/main/docs/ToRussianPeople.md |
"years" would suffice then - they'll keep adjusting that anyway. |
agree. fixed |
…n 🇷🇺 readers This message is intended to fight misinformation around the Russian aggression of Ukraine, precisely for Russian residents that are kept unaware of the atrocities that Vladimir Putin started in February 2022. Please do help spread this message: good people will try helping, but they first need to know. Ref: https://github.com/vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine/blob/6cedba904e888c0188e1a31b1463618112e41bfd/docs/ToRussianPeople.md Ref: vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine#4
…n 🇷🇺 readers This message is intended to fight misinformation around the Russian aggression of Ukraine, precisely for Russian residents that are kept unaware of the atrocities that Vladimir Putin started in February 2022. Please do help spread this message: good people will try helping, but they first need to know. Ref: https://github.com/vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine/blob/6cedba904e888c0188e1a31b1463618112e41bfd/docs/ToRussianPeople.md Ref: vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine#4
…n 🇷🇺 readers This message is intended to fight misinformation around the Russian aggression of Ukraine, precisely for Russian residents that are kept unaware of the atrocities that Vladimir Putin started in February 2022. Please do help spread this message: good people will try helping, but they first need to know. Ref: https://github.com/vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine/blob/6cedba904e888c0188e1a31b1463618112e41bfd/docs/ToRussianPeople.md Ref: vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine#4
…n 🇷🇺 readers This message is intended to fight misinformation around the Russian aggression of Ukraine, precisely for Russian residents that are kept unaware of the atrocities that Vladimir Putin started in February 2022. Please do help spread this message: good people will try helping, but they first need to know. Ref: https://github.com/vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine/blob/6cedba904e888c0188e1a31b1463618112e41bfd/docs/ToRussianPeople.md Ref: vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine#4
I've done releases and publishing of my most popular packages - that should ensure that the next dependency update will reach downstream consumers at their nest patch upgrade. Thanks everyone for the collaboration! One thing left: endorsing this approach also in the |
will update readme once I get out of the shelter. |
Thank you all for this effort, the suffering of the people of Ukraine, and to some extent the Russian people, we all want peace, and respect for ideas, i have Russian comrades who are suffering, and Ukrainian comrades hiding in shelters, i see this and I don't believe it. |
Done |
Thanks, closing here, I will try to squeeze some more of my brain cells on further ideas. |
Meanwhile, linking more effort by @laminas - laminas/laminas-mvc#112 Mostly cross-linking to allow picking up ideas from other readers. |
Hey, a few questions I have:
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I raised this thread specifically because I do not speak nor understand Russian zeitgeist. Multiple Russian-natives suggested that stronger wording, or confrontation-oriented wording would have no effect (or worse effect - see linked
Most likely not: these messages are dragged in by us maintainers, not by Russian devs upgrading their dependencies. |
My point is not really about the Russian translation (assuming the english and russian text are nearly identical). It's more than this: doesn't cite any source and doesn't link to any extra information. Photos linked have no way of actually believing if they are actually from this conflict. Heck we've seen so many fake photos/tweets already, even me I have no way of guaranteeing that these are actual photos from the current war 🤷 Combatting disinformation with "here's the actual reality summed up in 1 sentence, and just believe me" sounds light to me, which is why I'm wondering if a link to information sources (in Russian) might help here. (I unfortunately have no idea where to point people to…) So to be clear, I'm not challenging the whole thing, just wondering how to make it more efficient. I see that laminas/laminas-mvc#111 took an alternative direction, which is interesting. |
Totally on board: I shipped early and shipped it everywhere to start spreading earlier rather than later (due to Brandolini's law). I think you might want to open a new issue about this, perhaps highlighting specific fragments, or proposing alternative wording. |
pinging some popular developer i know could maybe make an large impact in their own repository / sites @sindresorhus @ry @warting @benjamingr @mcollina @voxpelli @ronag @LinusU @gr2m @Richienb @TimothyGu @lucacasonato what do you think about this? just look at this repos own readme |
@jimmywarting Node.js is off the table since adding a banner is dangerous for our Russian project members because of the regime there. We tried and eventually removed it. For anything I personally own I would strongly prefer not to add a banner (since that feels very performative) and instead do something that actually supports Ukranians. There have been many initiatives in Israel (where I live) to help Ukranian developers (lots of companies here have offices in Kiev) - mostly with legal stuff (helping with papers, calling delegates etc). I am open to ideas or if someone wants to throw together a fundraiser-conference I'm happy to contribute a talk to that. |
Oh, I see the ask in this particular issue is:
Sorry. I am strictly against that for any of my stuff as well as for Node.js. When users install software their expectation is for that software to do what is promised and nothing else. There is implicit trust between the maintainer and the user regarding the software not doing unexpected things. Adding any political messages to software on users' computers seems trust-breeching to me and I care about the people using my code so I am strictly against that. It is also feels like a very performative form of allyship. Note I held this opinion when I was in a bomb-shelter with my infant son while rockets were fired on my home. I still hold this opinion. So basically my personal political opinion and willingness to take action about it does not mean I am willing to compromise any packages I own. Software is political, I acknowledge I work on open source and answer stuff on Q&A sites for ideological political reasons and I believe it helps narrow the knowledge gap and improve social mobility. I honestly believe it enables people to build things and improve their lives. I have a lot of respect for the power and trust I have from the community as a maintainer and I won't do anything that can undermine that. The situation in the Ukraine is truly awful and I pray for the safety of the Ukranian people. I promise to continue to take action as I am able. |
…n 🇷🇺 readers This message is intended to fight misinformation around the Russian aggression of Ukraine, precisely for Russian residents that are kept unaware of the atrocities that Vladimir Putin started in February 2022. Please do help spread this message: good people will try helping, but they first need to know. Ref: https://github.com/vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine/blob/6cedba904e888c0188e1a31b1463618112e41bfd/docs/ToRussianPeople.md Ref: vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine#4
…n 🇷🇺 readers This message is intended to fight misinformation around the Russian aggression of Ukraine, precisely for Russian residents that are kept unaware of the atrocities that Vladimir Putin started in February 2022. Please do help spread this message: good people will try helping, but they first need to know. Ref: https://github.com/vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine/blob/6cedba904e888c0188e1a31b1463618112e41bfd/docs/ToRussianPeople.md Ref: vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine#4
…an 🇷🇺 readers This message is intended to fight misinformation around the Russian aggression of Ukraine, precisely for Russian residents that are kept unaware of the atrocities that Vladimir Putin started in February 2022. Please do help spread this message: good people will try helping, but they first need to know. Ref: https://github.com/vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine/blob/6cedba904e888c0188e1a31b1463618112e41bfd/docs/ToRussianPeople.md Ref: vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine#4
…n readers vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine#4 Signed-off-by: Yuri Shkuro <[email protected]>
…n 🇷🇺 readers (#4581) vshymanskyy/StandWithUkraine#4 --------- Signed-off-by: Yuri Shkuro <[email protected]>
Disinformation ramping up
Hey folks, as you may have already heard, most mainstream media is now banned in Russia, and the disinformation campaign inside their country is ramping up to fight common sense.
Putin is really trying to hide his own crimes in plain sight, by blaming others.
What I can do
I am maintaining a number of popular open-source packages that are downloaded millions of times worldwide. These are:
I want to use them to do some good: spreading a message. Nothing malicious, just distributing information.
What we need
What I can't do
I can't write a political message that comes through to a population whose costume is most unbeknownst to me.
I also don't speak Russian, nor know the Cyrillic alphabet.
Call for help
I am no diplomat: I'm just trying to do my part, but asking here is possibly the best spot where I can find other people interested in redacting such a message, and then using this repository to explain how to copy it into projects, for distribution.
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