Interface UI Fix on blurred fonts when zoomed over 100%

[iamlykan]

Team Surge,

I have been using surge for a very long time and its the incredible work by you. Loved the efforts you had implemented to release such a marvellous synth. But the only thing which bothers when it comes to working on sound design is the resolution fix.

Since the UI lacks with Vector Scalability. The fonts get blurred when zoomed. By default 100% looks small and so the fonts on a 23 inch monitor with a resolution of 1920x1080. When Zoomed to 125% the fonts loose their sharpness and the crucial detail of the VST gets slightly blurred. Please do fix the blur of the font when zoomed or scale the 100 percent with sharpness.

Please do check the attached files with this post. It might explain and can provide better detail about this.
Again this is not a bug or glitch its just a feature request needed for such incredible synth to work with.

Thank you.

[baconpaul]

Hmm everything is vector based and in my 4k Mac monitor I get perfect crispness from 100 up to 500 percent

so let me ask a few questions

1: which surge version?
2: edit no this is mac
3: is the situation improved at 150 or 200?

Our font rendering is just handled by the os so I’m not quite sure if there’s anything we can do to improve it in your system, but I’m also curious if the beta of our upcoming version is better (assuming you are running 19)

[baconpaul]

Oh no that’s a Mac screenshot! Sorry

[baconpaul]

https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/nightly_XT

Here’s the beta of our upcoming version; curious if that is better?

[iamlykan]

Since, I am on Mac OS Mohave, I do see other plugins UI much better. As I said on the basic resolution of 1080p which is overall a standard resolution when it comes to people who are still on old screens or specially laptop users definitely facing this issue. On the other hand, on a 4k resolution it won't appear that way. So my only question stays why the interface of Surge cannot adapt Font sharpness within the plugin itself depending on the UI structure of its own instead of relying on font optimization of the operating system. If a scalable TrueType font is included inside the vst itself it will use the font size type automatically through itself when scaled on percentage. I hope you understand.

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2021, 09:38 Paul, ***@***.***> wrote: https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/nightly_XT Here’s the beta of our upcoming version; curious if that is better? — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#5619 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AW4BOA26HNDUFYJNYRE5DFLUQLFFDANCNFSM5J2Q4GZQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>.

[iamlykan]

If possible, if you can switch your 4k monitor to a standard 1080p 22 inches monitor or a 13 inch laptop screen. You might easily get what I am talking about. If the skin zoom are optimized according to screen resolution would be more logical. I hope that will be taken care of by version 1.10, since I am on 1.9 which the current version.

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2021, 09:49 Kiran Ambekar, ***@***.***> wrote: Since, I am on Mac OS Mohave, I do see other plugins UI much better. As I said on the basic resolution of 1080p which is overall a standard resolution when it comes to people who are still on old screens or specially laptop users definitely facing this issue. On the other hand, on a 4k resolution it won't appear that way. So my only question stays why the interface of Surge cannot adapt Font sharpness within the plugin itself depending on the UI structure of its own instead of relying on font optimization of the operating system. If a scalable TrueType font is included inside the vst itself it will use the font size type automatically through itself when scaled on percentage. I hope you understand. On Sat, 11 Dec 2021, 09:38 Paul, ***@***.***> wrote: > https://surge-synthesizer.github.io/nightly_XT > > Here’s the beta of our upcoming version; curious if that is better? > > — > You are receiving this because you authored the thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#5619 (comment)>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AW4BOA26HNDUFYJNYRE5DFLUQLFFDANCNFSM5J2Q4GZQ> > . > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> > or Android > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. > >

[mkruselj]

1.10 will not happen, please try Surge XT nightly (baconpaul posted a link above) and see if it's better.

[baconpaul]

Looking more carefully the assets circled are SVG paths not fonts. They will not get the same subpixel rendering on low dpi monitors thst fonts will. But the new version has a mostly improved SVG renderer so it may improve your situation.

[iamlykan]

That sounds great. Hope so its fixed. Will keep you posted if this still looks the same.

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2021, 18:11 Paul, ***@***.***> wrote: Looking more carefully the assets circled are SVG paths not fonts. They will not get the same subpixel rendering on low dpi monitors thst fonts will. But the new version has a mostly improved SVG renderer so it may improve your situation. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#5619 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AW4BOA56RWJ6YU4D7F2NGV3UQNBH5ANCNFSM5J2Q4GZQ> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>.

[iamlykan]

Thank you for the most earliest response by the Surge Team.

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2021, 18:16 Kiran Ambekar, ***@***.***> wrote: That sounds great. Hope so its fixed. Will keep you posted if this still looks the same. On Sat, 11 Dec 2021, 18:11 Paul, ***@***.***> wrote: > Looking more carefully the assets circled are SVG paths not fonts. They > will not get the same subpixel rendering on low dpi monitors thst fonts > will. But the new version has a mostly improved SVG renderer so it may > improve your situation. > > — > You are receiving this because you authored the thread. > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub > <#5619 (comment)>, > or unsubscribe > <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AW4BOA56RWJ6YU4D7F2NGV3UQNBH5ANCNFSM5J2Q4GZQ> > . > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS > <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> > or Android > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. > >

[baconpaul]

No problem!

If it still renders poorly at low dpi on mac there's not an enormous amount we can do, but may have an idea or two. let us know.

[mkruselj]

@iamlykan Can you please tell us if Surge XT is looking fine for you now?

[mkruselj]

@baconpaul I'm gonna close this one.

@iamlykan If at any rate you want to clue us in if how Surge XT works for you and if it looks "right", do let us know.