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Required Youtube Video doesn't work at all on mobile which means you can't sign on mobile. #71

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ChaseBro opened this issue Apr 6, 2015 · 12 comments
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ChaseBro commented Apr 6, 2015

This seems like SUPER silly. What exactly is the goal of this beyond everyone hating us? We have no requirements to do this level of "training" and no one's going to watch anyway, it will just make it impossible to move people through the line as we have 100 people milling about ignoring their phone (assuming we can actually get it to work on mobile. Thoughts @csweintraub

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merichar commented Apr 6, 2015

This version is for before they're standing on line, but I don't make the requirements, I just implement them. Also, works on mobile for me. What are you seeing in iOS?

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ChaseBro commented Apr 6, 2015

Just a black box

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ChaseBro commented Apr 6, 2015

And why is there a second version? Is the video important or no? If you can sign it without watching the video but there is a video that somepeople were required to watch then you're literally asking to get sued. This should be taken to LCA if you are messing with the waiver (which you effectively are by making people sign that they watched the movie).

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merichar commented Apr 6, 2015

Score one for FF on android.

I'm not a legal expert, but it seems there are issues if you're willing to sign that you watched a movie after not having watched the movie.

Version that committee will use to have people sign waivers (instead of people self-signing) doesn't have the video embedded because the video will be looping in Wean Commons.

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ChaseBro commented Apr 6, 2015

Then we're directly modifying the waiver and should get it approved by LCA.
My point was that we're either modifying it and should get approval, or
we're not and shouldn't do it. As is we should get approval (imho).
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:16 AM Meg Richards [email protected]
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Score one for FF on android.

I'm not a legal expert, but it seems there are issues if you're willing to
sign that you watched a movie after not having watched the movie.

Version that committee will use to have people sign waivers (instead of
people self-signing) doesn't have the video embedded because the video will
be looping in Wean Commons.


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merichar commented Apr 6, 2015

I'm just the code monkey; you'll have to wait for Carrie to get the real answer, but I assume she and Tim did run whatever changes they made past some reasonable entity.

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Tim and I chatted about this, he approved it and aid we didn't need to get Legal involved. I asked him specifically about that. EH&S has signed off on it and all appropriate stakeholders have watched and reviewed it.

In terms of the video working on mobile, if that is what we are talking about on this issue, its minor. It doesn't matter and worse comes to worse, we can ask all chairs to not let their orgs sign it on their phones.

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arakla commented May 6, 2016

This should be revisited along with #173 as the move to CFA has gotten more people concerned about this

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Isn't actually required though? Do we have some agreement where we explicitly stated it is a required video? It doesn't adhere to any official safely requirement, it's just a video we made. Orgs still have to go to trainings.

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arakla commented May 6, 2016

Actually it is as of this year. We actually don't meet all of risks
requirements as they think everyone must watch the video and that it has
been updated with fire safety requirements, what to do if there is a fire,
and fire evacuation information.

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Carnegie Mellon University, 2016

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On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:47 AM, Patrick Koenig [email protected]
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Isn't actually required though? Do we have some agreement where we
explicitly stated it is a required video? It doesn't adhere to any official
safely requirement, it's just a video we made. Orgs still have to go to
trainings.


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ChaseBro commented May 6, 2016

I agree with Patrick, I don't think we should really try to "require" the
video and should instead just show it by default and I bet 90% of people
won't skip. If it doesn't work on mobile then just applink at the end and
hope they watch it.

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Actually it is as of this year. We actually don't meet all of risks
requirements as they think everyone must watch the video and that it has
been updated with fire safety requirements, what to do if there is a fire,
and fire evacuation information.

Aamer F. Rakla
B.H.A. Information Systems & Drama: Production and Stage Management
Carnegie Mellon University, 2016

Boss Ambassador (Mentor), Student Life Office
Financial Advisor, Student Dormitory Council
Treasurer, Spring Carnival Committee

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:47 AM, Patrick Koenig [email protected]
wrote:

Isn't actually required though? Do we have some agreement where we
explicitly stated it is a required video? It doesn't adhere to any
official
safely requirement, it's just a video we made. Orgs still have to go to
trainings.


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arakla commented May 6, 2016

It is no longer us requiring it tough, unless we talk to Andrew and he
corrects me, from what I understand Risk Management and Insurance are
requiring this video of we are on CFA lot.

On Friday, May 6, 2016, Chase Brownell [email protected] wrote:

I agree with Patrick, I don't think we should really try to "require" the
video and should instead just show it by default and I bet 90% of people
won't skip. If it doesn't work on mobile then just applink at the end and
hope they watch it.

On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 9:50 PM Aamer Rakla <[email protected]
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> wrote:

Actually it is as of this year. We actually don't meet all of risks
requirements as they think everyone must watch the video and that it has
been updated with fire safety requirements, what to do if there is a
fire,
and fire evacuation information.

Aamer F. Rakla
B.H.A. Information Systems & Drama: Production and Stage Management
Carnegie Mellon University, 2016

Boss Ambassador (Mentor), Student Life Office
Financial Advisor, Student Dormitory Council
Treasurer, Spring Carnival Committee

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:47 AM, Patrick Koenig <
[email protected]
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>
wrote:

Isn't actually required though? Do we have some agreement where we
explicitly stated it is a required video? It doesn't adhere to any
official
safely requirement, it's just a video we made. Orgs still have to go to
trainings.


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Carnegie Mellon University, 2016

Boss Ambassador (Mentor), Student Life Office
Financial Advisor, Student Dormitory Council
Treasurer, Spring Carnival Committee

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