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Dump sourceforge, need a new site, UI needs new icons #4502

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ghost opened this issue Jan 5, 2016 · 8 comments
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Dump sourceforge, need a new site, UI needs new icons #4502

ghost opened this issue Jan 5, 2016 · 8 comments
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@ghost
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ghost commented Jan 5, 2016

For a long time I was turned off of qBittorrent for a few reasons.
#1 being the website, it needs updated. You are losing visitors and it's not visually appealing and it could be confused for spyware for those not bothering to investigate.
#2 The UI and app icons are...ugly. New icon, new site, new UI icons would have a serious impact on your user count. Increase in users, attracts devs to contribute. A "branding revamp" would help this project.
#3 Sourceforge is clunky, filled with junk, not user friendly, owned by Dice (which itself is a bad. company...).

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ilusi0n commented Jan 5, 2016

I don't think the website is that bad. I mean, is not something fantastic, but is not as bad as you are putting it. Regarded the interface, same thing. I don't think it's that bad, I have seen worse interfaces.
I'm referring the interface in qt. If it can be improved? Obviously, like everything...

As for Sourceforge I agree. I believe it should be dropped.

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SourceForge (as the name implies) was created to maintain CODE, a source code repository. Not to design websites and such. Secondly, most of the stuff is on GitHub, which is also a source code repository, although there are items on SourceForge. If you really not using qbittorrent just because of the icon and the website, then you are the one missing out. Having qbittorrent on a headless server far outweighs any benefit a new icon gets me (which is none). Agreed that SourceForge is clunky and no longer aligned with the true OSS ideals.
I say make some icons and website drafts and present them.
I'm sorry, but I HATE HATE HATE HATE flat design and Google's material design. But that is just me.

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ghost commented Jan 6, 2016

Someone already posted a pull request with new icons: #4253
If you have ideas for it, why not presenting them? I guess @sledgehammer999 will take a look on it.

About the website: Of course it could need a little working, but imho it's doing its job fine enough.
There already were a lot of discussions about Sourceforge in the forums (cannot link it though, as the forums remain offline for now), and as for qBittorrent v3.3.1 the links to download the most recent version of qBittorrent now lead to Fosshub.

I guess you can read more in @dewcansam's reply.

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ghost commented Jan 6, 2016

I disagree the website is doing its job. Its job is to attract visitors, inform them about the benefits of qBittorent (especially over uTorrent), make it easy and pleasant to download it. Without doing A / B testing with analytics, you don't know how well that current website is doing. How long does a visitor stay on the site or how many visitors leave within 10 seconds?

I'm not trying to be a snob and I'm not a marketing guy. I just a dev who wants the best UX and design, who has the design knowledge and skills. Icons are a simple thing that provides more benefits than the effort required, it vastly improves the look and feel w/o changing the actual UI layout.

Personally, I really like material design, it looks good, it's intuitive and natural, but that's not what I'm talking about here. Although some material icons would look really good on the UI.

4K and high dpi screens are starting to be mainstream now on the desktop.

I can and will do icon and website proposals, only if they will be taken seriously by the main contributors. I don't want to spend a lot of time doing this for nothing.

I'm proposing a site made with angular and angular-material, written in typescript, and compiled and bundled using systemJS. Don't let angular-material scare you, just some elements would be nice

If the core contributors really hate some material design elements, then I could do it in good ol' bootstrap.

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Opps sorry @robertbaker . I did not realize that you were referring to 5 different items. You only had the the first item noted.
According to item 5)

Sourceforge is clunky, filled with junk, not user friendly,

I agree that maybe the team should look into removing it from there.

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ghost commented Jan 7, 2016

I haven't used this but it's free for OSS. https://bintray.com/

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its job is to attract visitors, inform them about the benefits of qBittorent (especially over uTorrent), make it easy and pleasant to download it. Without doing A / B testing with analytics, you don't know how well that current website is doing. How long does a visitor stay on the site or how many visitors leave within 10 seconds?

Incorrect, the forum is there as a support tool for qbittorrent users, it is not used for marketing, and really why should anyone care whether a visitor is there for 2 hours, 2 minutes or 2 seconds? If they find an answer in thirty seconds ... Fine. If they stay and read a few posts, ... ... That's also fine.

A/B or multi-variate testing is only useful for pages that have a commercial content, the forum does not exists to 'convert' visitors into "paying customers", it is not supported by advertising so visitor numbers do NOT matter, it exists purely as a support service, and as such is not expected or required to 'pay it's way', it is hosted and maintained by volunteers and will probably remain that way once the database has been thoroughly checked and whatever the exploit was, that allowed the 'cracking' attack to succeed, has been fixed and tested and the forum put back on-line.

@sledgehammer999 sledgehammer999 added the Look and feel Affect UI "Look and feel" only without changing the logic label Jan 25, 2016
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FranciscoPombal commented Sep 13, 2020

All points in the OP have been addressed (Sourceforge was not fully dumped, but they are not the main download mirror for binary distribution anyway. Also, in recent times they've improved).

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