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Document we're not tracking relationships between symbols #16018

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@ikonst ikonst commented Sep 2, 2023

Fixes #15653.

I did not use @erictraut's "quantum entanglement" metaphor, though I find it to be quite illustrative :)

- :py:func:`issubclass` like in :code:`issubclass(cls, MyClass)` will narrow ``cls`` to be ``Type[MyClass]``
- :py:class:`type` like in :code:`type(obj) is int` will narrow ``obj`` to have ``int`` type
- :py:func:`callable` like in :code:`callable(obj)` will narrow object to callable type
- :code:`obj is not None` will narrow object to its :ref:`non-optional form <strict_optional>`
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strangely we didn't mention this

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Limitations of narrowing
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Hope this is the right place. I wanted it to have a heading, to make it easy to refer people, but it's also a bit strange that it comes as a topic in the same hierarchy and right before "is_subclass" and "callable".

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Let's make it a heading and move it to the bottom of the page.

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Thanks for writing this up!

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Let's make it a heading and move it to the bottom of the page.

return 'spam'

Tracking these sort of cross-variable conditions in a type checker would add significant complexity
and performance overhead and would be computationally infeasible in all but the most basic cases.
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and performance overhead and would be computationally infeasible in all but the most basic cases.
and performance overhead.

Claim feels a little too strong, first half of the sentence says enough.

Tracking these sort of cross-variable conditions in a type checker would add significant complexity
and performance overhead and would be computationally infeasible in all but the most basic cases.

You may override the type checker with a :ref:`cast <casts>`, or rewrite the function to be
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You may override the type checker with a :ref:`cast <casts>`, or rewrite the function to be
You may override the type checker with an ``assert`` or :ref:`cast <casts>`, or rewrite the function to be

When I run into this, assert is usually more ergonomic. It's also safer than cast.

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Probably would phrase as "help the type checker with an assert", but I'm not sure it'll be more ergonomic in this case. Maybe I'm tired and missing something obvious?

cast:

def f(a: str | None, b: str | None) -> str:
    if a is not None or b is not None:
        return a or cast(str, b)
    return 'spam'

assert:

def f(a: str | None, b: str | None) -> str:
    if a is not None or b is not None:
        if a:
            return a
        assert b is not None
        return b
    return 'spam'

third option:

def f(a: str | None, b: str | None) -> str:
    if a is not None or b is not None:
        return a or b or 'impossible'
    return 'spam'

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Yeah, not more ergonomic in this case, but better in the cases where I usually run into this. But maybe I dislike cast more than most people :-)

I'd do assert a or b; return a or b

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assert a or b doesn't help you either because we don't narrow conditionally. (Also, in this case you'd get more than you'd bargain for, as empty b would assert.)

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Oh oops, I guess you'd have to do ret = a or b; assert ret is not None; return ret

@hauntsaninja hauntsaninja merged commit cc8a4b5 into python:master Sep 2, 2023
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@ikonst ikonst deleted the 09-01-docs_document_lack_of_entanglement branch September 2, 2023 23:07
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type_narrowing.rst: document lack of "second degree" analysis
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