Secure coding is not enabled for restorable state! WARNING on Mac OS Sonoma 14.0

[eamarten]

Bug report

Bug description:

With turtle_test.py containing

from turtle import home
home()

running

python turtle_test.py

outputs:

2023-10-17 08:21:27.948 Python[19831:20908209] WARNING: Secure coding is not enabled for restorable state! Enable secure coding by implementing NSApplicationDelegate.applicationSupportsSecureRestorableState: and returning YES.

CPython versions tested on:

3.12

Operating systems tested on:

macOS

Linked PRs

• gh-110950: add upstream Tk fixes to macOS installer. #111041
• [3.11] gh-110950: add upstream Tk fixes to macOS installer. (GH-111041) #112293
• [3.12] gh-110950: add upstream Tk fixes to macOS installer. (GH-111041) #112294

[terryjreedy]

For anyone's information, turtle.home should turtle screen to appear with the turtle at the home (origin) position and orientation.

[ronaldoussoren]

Minimal reproducer: import tkinter; tkinter.Tk().

This is a problem in Tk, not in Tkinter as we don't use Cocoa in the Tkinter source code.

[ugandhar84]

i'm also facing same error - do we have nay resolution for this?

[aivarannamaa]

I just created a ticket in Tcl/Tk project: https://core.tcl-lang.org/tk/tktview/10b38a7a7c13235296cb0fbc6205f591d5ed15a4

[SimpungaElias]

what to do with this error?

[aivarannamaa]

It looks just a warning to me. I haven't seen any misbehaviour in my app after upgrading to Sonoma. So I guess for now you can just ignore it.

[ronaldoussoren]

It looks just a warning to me. I haven't seen any misbehaviour in my app after upgrading to Sonoma. So I guess for now you can just ignore it.

That's correct, this is just a warning from a system library about using functionality that's deprecated in macOS Sonoma.

[SimpungaElias]

I am using PyCharm, so the problem is that the UI is not working, all parameters are set well, but all I am seeing is white color background

[BenjaminIsMyName]

Minimal reproducer with pygame:

import pygame

pygame.init()
screen = pygame.display.set_mode((800, 600))

[chrstphrchvz]

I am using PyCharm, so the problem is that the UI is not working, all parameters are set well, but all I am seeing is white color background

@SimpungaElias, that issue sounds unrelated to the Secure coding is not enabled for restorable state! warning.

[chrstphrchvz]

Upstream Tcl/Tk has implemented the method suggested by the warning. I have verified that doing so prevents the warning in Tcl/Tk. However, I currently do not have a Python framework build which I can both observe the warning from Tkinter and see whether the upstream fix makes a difference.

I have opened #111041 in case Python is interested in backporting the upstream fix to the macOS installers, and assuming it does work for Tkinter.

[Pablosarti7]

Did anyone find a solution to this problem? Also this problem started popping up when I installed Pyinstaller.

[pauldebeurs]

I work with Python 3.11.1 and I use matplotlib.pyplot.
Since Sonoma 14.0 I get a warning: Secure coding is not enabled for restorable state!
When I don't plot there is no warning.
Can Apple resolve this for us?

[Heilige-49]

I work with Python 3.11.1 and I use matplotlib.pyplot. Since Sonoma 14.0 I get a warning: Secure coding is not enabled for restorable state! When I don't plot there is no warning. Can Apple resolve this for us?

I am facing the same issue and don't really know how to fix it

[ronaldoussoren]

I work with Python 3.11.1 and I use matplotlib.pyplot. Since Sonoma 14.0 I get a warning: Secure coding is not enabled for restorable state! When I don't plot there is no warning. Can Apple resolve this for us?

I am facing the same issue and don't really know how to fix it

This is warning, not an error and therefore you don't have to do anything. The cause for the warning is fixed in the codebase of Tcl/Tk and will be included in a future release of Tcl/Tk and then in a future release of Python.

[Heilige-49]

Ok, thanks for the reply

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On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 9:53 AM Ronald Oussoren ***@***.***> wrote: I work with Python 3.11.1 and I use matplotlib.pyplot. Since Sonoma 14.0 I get a warning: Secure coding is not enabled for restorable state! When I don't plot there is no warning. Can Apple resolve this for us? I am facing the same issue and don't really know how to fix it This is warning, not an error and therefore you don't *have* to do anything. The cause for the warning is fixed in the codebase of Tcl/Tk and will be included in a future release of Tcl/Tk and then in a future release of Python. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#110950 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BDVHVZLLDKUZCARYBGJ5V73YEHNX5AVCNFSM6AAAAAA6C2NL6WVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMYTQMBXG4YDAOBUGQ> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[ericsuchagenius]

wait guys i also have this problem, when i implement tkinter even though it pops up a showing window, there is nothing on it even though i followed the steps, but it is just not printing, in the console, there is this line of warning which is simular to the description above.

from tkinter import *
root = Tk()
myLabel = Label(root,text="helloworld")
myLabel.pack()
root.mainloop()

[KKorionKK]

I also had such a warning, but only when working with matplotlib

[benjiprores]

wait guys i also have this problem, when i implement tkinter even though it pops up a showing window, there is nothing on it even though i followed the steps, but it is just not printing, in the console, there is this line of warning which is simular to the description above.

from tkinter import * root = Tk() myLabel = Label(root,text="helloworld") myLabel.pack() root.mainloop()

Yes also having the same problem here…
When are they going to fix this!!

[Heilige-49]

wait guys i also have this problem, when i implement tkinter even though it pops up a showing window, there is nothing on it even though i followed the steps, but it is just not printing, in the console, there is this line of warning which is simular to the description above.
from tkinter import * root = Tk() myLabel = Label(root,text="helloworld") myLabel.pack() root.mainloop()

Yes also having the same problem here… When are they going to fix this!!

I am facing the same issue and I am fed up. I decided to use Pycharm and it works swiftly.

[ned-deily]

Thanks for the PR. The fix for Tk in the macOS installer has now been merged for release in 3.13.0a2, 3.12.1, and 3.11.7.

[iDevSpread]

I am using PyCharm, so the problem is that the UI is not working, all parameters are set well, but all I am seeing is white color background

I got the same issue, too. Do you fix it?

[Heilige-49]

Presently I am using Pycharm and it's not having any issue somehow and works pretty well to date.

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On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 1:50 AM Feynman_W ***@***.***> wrote: I am using PyCharm, so the problem is that the UI is not working, all parameters are set well, but all I am seeing is white color background I got the same issue, too. Do you fix it? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#110950 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/BDVHVZLG37ATJUF54NYQSILYHUM57AVCNFSM6AAAAAA6C2NL6WVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMYTQMZXGY3TENBWGM> . You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[u-aida]

I got same error pysimplegui with matplotlib.

My environment configuration is
Python: 3.12 (Because of pysimplegui do not work with SONOMA)
Mac OS: 14.2 (Preview version of Sonoma had same issue)

Python problem is happened after I update to Sonoma.

[ned-deily]

@u-aida: Note above: "The fix for Tk in the macOS installer has now been merged for release in 3.13.0a2, 3.12.1, and 3.11.7." And this only applies to those Pythons for macOS downloadable from the python.org website. If you are using a Python from another source, contact its distributor and ask them to update their version of Tk.

[Wangsd823]

wait guys i also have this problem, when i implement tkinter even though it pops up a showing window, there is nothing on it even though i followed the steps, but it is just not printing, in the console, there is this line of warning which is simular to the description above.

from tkinter import * root = Tk() myLabel = Label(root,text="helloworld") myLabel.pack() root.mainloop()

I had the same problem.

Python: 3.9.6
Tkinter: 8.5
Mac OS: 14.2

[ned-deily]

I had the same problem.

Python: 3.9.6 Tkinter: 8.5 Mac OS: 14.2

There seems to be a lot of confusion and conflation of issues here. This issue is closed and was about the secure coding warning that may be seen when using currently released versions of Tk, which is what Python's tkinter uses as a GUI library, on macOS 14 Sonoma. This message is only a warning and can be ignored. As noted above, a patch to eliminate the warning has been applied to the Tk released with the most recent python.org macOS installers (for 3.13.0a2, 3.12.1, and 3.11.7). If you use Python on macOS from another source, the Tk versions used by them would need to be patched to eliminate the warning.

Any other behavior you may be seeing is a different problem, unrelated to this issue. It might be a Tk problem or it might be a Python problem or it might be a usage problem, but it is not this problem. Anyone wanting to pursue another problem should follow the usual procedures, like looking for help in one of the many forums and checking the Python and Tk issue trackers for similar reports.

In this particular case, be aware that Tk 8.5 is extremely old and unsupported and likely has many problems on more recent macOS releases but unfortunately is still shipped by Apple in macOS and is used by the python3 supplied with Xcode and the Command Line Tools. Python 3.9.6 is also very old and 3.9 is now in the security-fix-only phase of its life cycle: the most recent release of Python 3.9 is 3.9.18 and the last full bugfix release with binary installers was 3.9.13. Python 3.11.x and 3.12.x are the current fully-supported release versions.

[ronaldoussoren]

Note that /usr/bin/python3 also loudly complains about the usage of tkinter:

DEPRECATION WARNING: The system version of Tk is deprecated and may be removed in a future release. Please don't rely on it. Set TK_SILENCE_DEPRECATION=1 to suppress this warning.

It is highly unlikely that Apple will ever fix issues like this with Tk or upgrade Tk to a newer version. If you want to use Tkinter with Python you need to install a newer version.