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[C API] PEP 741: Add PyInitConfig C API to customize the Python initialization #107954

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vstinner opened this issue Aug 14, 2023 · 10 comments
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vstinner commented Aug 14, 2023

Links to previous discussion of this feature:

https://discuss.python.org/t/fr-allow-private-runtime-config-to-enable-extending-without-breaking-the-pyconfig-abi/18004

Summary of proposal:

Add a text-based configuration to Python initialization

Pitch:

An API should be added to the limited C API customize the Python initialization (PyConfig API, PEP 587).

The problem is that the PyConfig C API is excluded from the limited C API, whereas the legacy initialization API is deprecated (ex: Py_VerboseFlag in Python 3.12) and being removed in Python 3.13 (ex: PySys_SetPath()).

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LostTime76 commented Aug 15, 2023

As discussed in discourse, I do not think the text file is the best option for embedding. Depending on the embedding scenario, I think we will run into issues of finding the file due to how python is currently resolving paths. I have a very specific scenario that may be solved in easier ways. Even if you by chance get python to find the file in my particular scenario, I don't want the user of my embedded python exe to have to specify package paths that my exe should be able to set itself.

Its not as easy as putting the file in the same directory as the embedded exe or the main script. Take the scenario that the embedding exe is using the global python install or the embedding exe is launched as a child process from an external process where the process path is not the path of the embedded exe.

I think there may be much easier ways to solve my specific scenario. I would like to use as few APIs as possible and not duplicate how python is already parsing the options from the command line.

What about adding additional command line options that can be set from argv? If we could set additional package paths from argv, it would allow us to directly point to where we need to without hassle.

Environment variables do not work nicely in the embedded scenario, even though we have PYTHONPATH, because there is no way to cleanly set an environment variable from an already running process to be accessible from a loaded python dll.

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I'm thinking about a function taking a string, not a file.

vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Sep 30, 2023
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Sep 30, 2023
Add a specification of the PyConfig structure to factorize the code.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Sep 30, 2023
Add a specification of the PyConfig structure to factorize the code.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Sep 30, 2023
Add a specification of the PyConfig structure to factorize the code.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Sep 30, 2023
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Sep 30, 2023
Add a specification of the PyConfig structure to factorize the code.
vstinner added a commit that referenced this issue Sep 30, 2023
Add a specification of the PyConfig structure to factorize the code.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Sep 30, 2023
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Oct 1, 2023
Add PyInitConfig functions:

* PyInitConfig_Python_New()
* PyInitConfig_Isolated_New()
* PyInitConfig_Free(config)
* PyInitConfig_SetInt(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetString(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_GetErrorMsg(config)

Add also functions using it:

* Py_InitializeFromInitConfig(config)
* Py_ExitWithInitConfig(config)

Changes:

* Add Include/initconfig.h header.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Oct 1, 2023
Add PyInitConfig functions:

* PyInitConfig_Python_New()
* PyInitConfig_Isolated_New()
* PyInitConfig_Free(config)
* PyInitConfig_SetInt(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_GetErrorMsg(config)

Add also functions using it:

* Py_InitializeFromInitConfig(config)
* Py_ExitWithInitConfig(config)

Changes:

* Add Include/initconfig.h header.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Oct 1, 2023
Add PyInitConfig functions:

* PyInitConfig_Python_New()
* PyInitConfig_Isolated_New()
* PyInitConfig_Free(config)
* PyInitConfig_SetInt(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_GetErrorMsg(config)

Add also functions using it:

* Py_InitializeFromInitConfig(config)
* Py_ExitWithInitConfig(config)

Add these 11 functions to the limited C API.

Changes:

* Add Include/initconfig.h header.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Oct 3, 2023
Add PyInitConfig functions:

* PyInitConfig_Python_New()
* PyInitConfig_Isolated_New()
* PyInitConfig_Free(config)
* PyInitConfig_SetInt(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_GetErrorMsg(config)

Add also functions using it:

* Py_InitializeFromInitConfig(config)
* Py_ExitWithInitConfig(config)

Add these 11 functions to the limited C API.

Changes:

* Add Include/initconfig.h header.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Nov 30, 2023
Add PyInitConfig functions:

* PyInitConfig_Python_New()
* PyInitConfig_Isolated_New()
* PyInitConfig_Free(config)
* PyInitConfig_SetInt(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_GetErrorMsg(config)

Add also functions using it:

* Py_InitializeFromInitConfig(config)
* Py_ExitWithInitConfig(config)

* Add functions to get runtime config:

  * PyConfig_GetInt()
  * PyConfig_GetStr()
  * PyConfig_GetStrList()

Add these functions to the limited C API.

Changes:

* Add Doc/c-api/config.rst.
* Add Include/initconfig.h header.
* Add Modules/_testcapi/config.c
* Add Lib/test/test_capi/test_config.py.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Nov 30, 2023
Add PyInitConfig functions:

* PyInitConfig_Python_New()
* PyInitConfig_Isolated_New()
* PyInitConfig_Free(config)
* PyInitConfig_SetInt(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_GetErrorMsg(config)

Add also functions using it:

* Py_InitializeFromInitConfig(config)
* Py_ExitWithInitConfig(config)

* Add functions to get runtime config:

  * PyConfig_GetInt()
  * PyConfig_GetStr()
  * PyConfig_GetStrList()

Add these functions to the limited C API.

Changes:

* Add Doc/c-api/config.rst.
* Add Include/initconfig.h header.
* Add Modules/_testcapi/config.c
* Add Lib/test/test_capi/test_config.py.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Dec 1, 2023
Add PyInitConfig functions:

* PyInitConfig_Python_New()
* PyInitConfig_Isolated_New()
* PyInitConfig_Free(config)
* PyInitConfig_SetInt(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_Exception(config)
* PyInitConfig_GetError(config, &err_msg)
* PyInitConfig_GetExitCode(config, &exitcode)

Add also functions using it:

* Py_InitializeFromInitConfig(config)
* Py_ExitWithInitConfig(config)

* Add functions to get runtime config:

  * PyConfig_GetInt()
  * PyConfig_GetStr()
  * PyConfig_GetStrList()

Add these functions to the limited C API.

Changes:

* Add Doc/c-api/config.rst.
* Add Include/initconfig.h header.
* Add Modules/_testcapi/config.c
* Add Lib/test/test_capi/test_config.py.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Dec 1, 2023
Add PyInitConfig functions:

* PyInitConfig_Python_New()
* PyInitConfig_Isolated_New()
* PyInitConfig_Free(config)
* PyInitConfig_SetInt(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_Exception(config)
* PyInitConfig_GetError(config, &err_msg)
* PyInitConfig_GetExitCode(config, &exitcode)

Add also functions using it:

* Py_InitializeFromInitConfig(config)
* Py_ExitWithInitConfig(config)

* Add functions to get runtime config:

  * PyConfig_GetInt()
  * PyConfig_GetStr()
  * PyConfig_GetStrList()

Add these functions to the limited C API.

Changes:

* Add Doc/c-api/config.rst.
* Add Include/initconfig.h header.
* Add Modules/_testcapi/config.c
* Add Lib/test/test_capi/test_config.py.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Dec 1, 2023
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Dec 1, 2023
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Dec 1, 2023
Add PyConfig_Get() and PyConfig_GetInt() functions to get the current
Python configuration.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Dec 1, 2023
Add PyConfig_Get() and PyConfig_GetInt() functions to get the current
Python configuration.

_PyConfig_AsDict() now converts PyConfig.xoptions as a dictionary.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Dec 1, 2023
Add PyConfig_Get() and PyConfig_GetInt() functions to get the current
Python configuration.

_PyConfig_AsDict() now converts PyConfig.xoptions as a dictionary.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Mar 14, 2024
Add PyInitConfig functions:

* PyInitConfig_Python_New()
* PyInitConfig_Isolated_New()
* PyInitConfig_Free(config)
* PyInitConfig_SetInt(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_Exception(config)
* PyInitConfig_GetError(config, &err_msg)
* PyInitConfig_GetExitCode(config, &exitcode)

Add also functions using it:

* Py_InitializeFromInitConfig(config)
* Py_ExitWithInitConfig(config)

Add these functions to the limited C API.

Changes:

* Add Doc/c-api/config.rst.
* Add Include/initconfig.h header.
adorilson pushed a commit to adorilson/cpython that referenced this issue Mar 25, 2024
…n#116359)

_PyConfig_AsDict() now returns bool objects for options using the new
PyConfig_MEMBER_BOOL type.

Update tests for these changes.
diegorusso pushed a commit to diegorusso/cpython that referenced this issue Apr 17, 2024
…n#116359)

_PyConfig_AsDict() now returns bool objects for options using the new
PyConfig_MEMBER_BOOL type.

Update tests for these changes.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue May 23, 2024
Add PyInitConfig functions:

* PyInitConfig_Python_New()
* PyInitConfig_Isolated_New()
* PyInitConfig_Free(config)
* PyInitConfig_SetInt(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStr(config, key, value)
* PyInitConfig_SetStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_SetWStrList(config, key, length, items)
* PyInitConfig_Exception(config)
* PyInitConfig_GetError(config, &err_msg)
* PyInitConfig_GetExitCode(config, &exitcode)

Add also functions using it:

* Py_InitializeFromInitConfig(config)
* Py_ExitWithInitConfig(config)

Add these functions to the limited C API.

Changes:

* Add Doc/c-api/config.rst.
* Add Include/initconfig.h header.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Aug 29, 2024
Add PyConfig_Get(), PyConfig_GetInt(), PyConfig_Set() and
PyConfig_Names() functions to get and set the current runtime Python
configuration.

_PyConfig_AsDict() now converts PyConfig.xoptions as a dictionary.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Aug 30, 2024
Add Doc/c-api/config.rst documentation.
@vstinner vstinner changed the title [C API] PEP 741: Add stable ABI to customize Python initialization [C API] PEP 741: Add PyInitConfig C API to customize the Python initialization Aug 30, 2024
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Aug 30, 2024
Add Doc/c-api/config.rst documentation.
Glyphack pushed a commit to Glyphack/cpython that referenced this issue Sep 2, 2024
Add a specification of the PyConfig structure to factorize the code.
vstinner added a commit that referenced this issue Sep 2, 2024
Add PyConfig_Get(), PyConfig_GetInt(), PyConfig_Set() and
PyConfig_Names() functions to get and set the current runtime Python
configuration.

Add visibility and "sys spec" to config and preconfig specifications.

_PyConfig_AsDict() now converts PyConfig.xoptions as a dictionary.

Co-authored-by: Bénédikt Tran <[email protected]>
vstinner added a commit that referenced this issue Sep 3, 2024
Add Doc/c-api/config.rst documentation.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Sep 4, 2024
Setting dev_mode to 1 in an isolated configuration now enables also
faulthandler.

Moreover, setting "module_search_paths" option with
PyInitConfig_SetStrList() now sets "module_search_paths_set" to 1.
vstinner added a commit that referenced this issue Sep 4, 2024
Setting dev_mode to 1 in an isolated configuration now enables also
faulthandler.

Moreover, setting "module_search_paths" option with
PyInitConfig_SetStrList() now sets "module_search_paths_set" to 1.
vstinner added a commit to vstinner/cpython that referenced this issue Sep 4, 2024
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vstinner commented Sep 6, 2024

PEP 741 is now fully implemented, I close the issue.

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