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Add ip-ddns.com and ddns-ip.net #2234

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@boyanpeychev boyanpeychev commented Oct 24, 2024

Public Suffix List (PSL) Submission

Checklist of required steps

  • Description of Organization

  • Robust Reason for PSL Inclusion

  • DNS verification via dig

  • Run Syntax Checker (make test)

  • Each domain listed in the PRIVATE section has and shall maintain at least two years remaining on registration, and we shall keep the _psl TXT record in place in the respective zone(s).

Submitter affirms the following:

  • We are listing any third-party limits that we seek to work around in our rationale such as those between IOS 14.5+ and Facebook (see Issue #1245 as a well-documented example)
  • Cloudflare
  • Let's Encrypt
  • MAKE SURE UPDATE THE FOLLOWING LIST WITH YOUR LIMITATIONS! REMOVE ENTRIES WHICH DO NOT APPLY AS WELL AS REMOVING THIS LINE!
  • This request was not submitted with the objective of working around other third-party limits.
  • The submitter acknowledges that it is their responsibility to maintain the domains within their section. This includes removing names which are no longer used, retaining the _psl DNS entry, and responding to e-mails to the supplied address. Failure to maintain entries may result in removal of individual entries or the entire section.
  • The Guidelines were carefully read and understood, and this request conforms to them.
  • The submission follows the guidelines on formatting and sorting.

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For PRIVATE section requests that are submitting entries for domains that match their organization website's primary domain, please understand that this can have impacts that may not match the desired outcome and take a long time to rollback, if at all.

To ensure that requested changes are entirely intentional, make sure that you read the affectation and propagation expectations, that you understand them, and confirm this understanding.

PR Rollbacks have lower priority, and the volunteers are unable to control when or if browsers or other parties using the PSL will refresh or update.

(Link: about propagation/expectations)

  • Yes, I understand. I could break my organization's website cookies and cause other issues, and the rollback timing is acceptable. Proceed anyways.

Description of Organization

ClouDNS is a dns hosting company providing dynamic dns for free.
We provide dyndns subdomain ip-ddns.com and ddns-ip.net to our users, allowing them to self-host some services without the need of buying an own domain and with the advantage to bypass some ISPs dynamic IP and to configure DNS entries automatically.

It could be very useful, if browser could correctly manage those subdomains (cookies, highlighting the subdomain, sorting by subdomain and not all the domain ). We want these services to be recognized as a known public suffix and dyndns services too.

Organization Website:

https://www.cloudns.net

Reason for PSL Inclusion

Each user receive 1 sub-domain for free. The reason for PSL inclusion is to isolate the cookie scope of subdomains.

Number of users this request is being made to serve: up to 30000

DNS Verification

$ dig _psl.ip-ddns.com txt +short
"https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/pull/2234"
$ dig _psl.ddns-ip.net txt +short
"https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/pull/2234"

Results of Syntax Checker (make test)

5 PASS , no errors

@boyanpeychev boyanpeychev marked this pull request as ready for review October 24, 2024 06:14
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groundcat commented Oct 30, 2024

  • Expiration (Note: Must STAY >2y at all times)
    • ⚠️ Due to registry lock for 55 days from today for renewal operation - ip-ddns.com expires 2025-10-24
    • ddns-ip.net expires 2027-10-24
  • DNS _psl entries (Note: Must STAY in place)
    • _psl.ip-ddns.com points to "https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/pull/2234"
    • _psl.ddns-ip.net points to "https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/pull/2234"
  • Tests pass
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  • Reasoning/Organization description
  • Non-personal email address
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@boyanpeychev Please extend the registration of ip-ddns.com to ensure an expiration date more than two years from today. This two-year buffer needs to be maintained continuously in future years to keep the domains in the PSL.

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@boyanpeychev Please extend the registration of ip-ddns.com to ensure an expiration date more than two years from today. This two-year buffer needs to be maintained continuously in future years to keep the domains in the PSL.

Hi! Yes, I know for this requirement, but because of mistake by one of our team members this domain name was registered only for 1 year, instead of 3, and now domain registry has an lock for 55 days from today for any modifications, including renewals :(

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groundcat commented Oct 30, 2024

@boyanpeychev Thank you for the explanation! It seems that a WHOIS check for ip-ddns.com currently shows only the clientTransferProhibited lock. According to ICANN's description of this status, it should not prevent renewal. I am not entirely sure, but gTLDs might have a 5-day grace period after registration where certain operations are restricted, but after that, it might be fine to renew. Could you reconfirm with the registrar if this is correct?

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@boyanpeychev Thank you for the explanation! It seems that a WHOIS check for ip-ddns.com currently shows only the clientTransferProhibited lock. According to ICANN's description of this status, it should not prevent renewal. I am not entirely sure, but gTLDs might have a 5-day grace period after registration where certain operations are restricted, but after that, it might be fine to renew. Could you reconfirm with the registrar if this is correct?

There is 60 day lock for transfer and renewals from the moment of the registration with the registrar we are using. If that's critical for you, we can wait more 55 days and I will comment again here once the renewal is done.

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wdhdev commented Oct 30, 2024

It shouldn't be too much of a problem, just ensure you renew it when you can. @groundcat

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groundcat commented Oct 30, 2024

I am okay with proceeding with this before you are able to renew the domain due to the registry lock. Given that ClouDNS has been a long-standing organization and the two-year rule is mainly to ensure that requestors understand the long-term impact of PSL inclusion, I believe ClouDNS will have no issues with this, as long as the listed domains continue to be renewed in the future.

@simon-friedberger simon-friedberger merged commit a4f696c into publicsuffix:master Oct 31, 2024
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