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runtime version should be bumped. |
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srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs
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/// - not be empty. | ||
/// - not be less than the number of candidates. | ||
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/// `who` cannot be an old voter who has not yet called [`remove_voter`]. |
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/// `who` cannot be an old voter who has not yet called [`remove_voter`]. | |
/// `who` cannot be an existing voter |
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actually: it can be an existing voter to update their vote.
It cannot be, exactly as phrased: old voter who has not yet called remove_voter
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is "old voter" a technical term? it sounds like a voter who is reaching retirement age.
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The full story is:
The code does not clean the votes at all and relies on two incentivization that voters themselves will do it. As a voter, once your vote has been counted once, then you are an old voter aka. retired if you want to name it like that. You should manually remove yourself via another tx because:
- you want your reserved bond back.
- you can't vote and participate anymore in rounds.
If you are fine with the logic I can formulate it better as inactive voter is the module docs. I agree that the term old voter is not clear.
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defunct_voter
/// Set the desired member count; if lower than the current count, then seats will not be up | ||
/// election when they expire. If more, then a new vote will be started if one is not | ||
/// already in progress. | ||
#[weight = SimpleDispatchInfo::FixedOperational(10_000)] |
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does one storage write and it's 10k. the one above does 3 mutations and a binary search and costs 100x as much. wtf?
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about your 3 comments on the steepness of weights:
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they are taken by approximately halving the weights that are decided for the other election (maybe a wrong decision, but that's not the main reason of your complaint) via benchmarking, which is not through manual analysis but rather execution time measuring and some manual juice added by me. Some examples:
- submitting a candidate (as you recently discussed in some chats) is quite expensive with regards to computing the outcome of the election so I bumped it up a bit.
- removing a voter and adding one is more or less the same in terms of cpu/io but I manually reduced the weight of removing a bit for the same reason: it will potentially reduce the block time of the next election.
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and more importantly this type of weight that you are analyzing, while I agree with it, is the
state-weight
which we, could, but at the moment have not yet introduced anywhere. Hence, I didn't apply it here either. The current weight numbers are merely a representation of computation time. Based on this, setting the desired seats could be arguably substantially less computationally intensive than submitting candidacy, hence the 100x difference.
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not sure i understand point (2) could you rephrase?
in general, weight should not be used to encode indirect costs because it is used to determine raw computation complexity to manage block fullness and is only incidentally used for fees. this is a good example whereby mixing the two creates a perverse incentive for validators to do less work by choosing transactions like these that are over-priced because they're accounting for a future cost, to be born by Some Other Guy.
if it's one-off indirect cost, then an additional non-weight fee is reasonable, to be charged in a discrete instance as part of the call. if it's an on-going cost, then an accordingly large deposit should be held (ReservableCurrrency
can be used for this).
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not sure i understand point (2) could you rephrase?
What I mean is that judging these based on how many mutate/read/writes they have is correct but not something that we yet do; the current weight in all modules is merely based on execution time. regardless of what they do internally. Totally black-boxed. analyzing read/write/mutate etc. will be one of the early next steps after Kusama.
... perverse incentive for validators to do less work by choosing transactions like these that are over-priced because they're accounting for a future cost, to be born by Some Other Guy.
Noted and I can conclude what the little bits of my manual tweaks are wrong. Will reverse them + fix the rest of them in further weight updates.
…te into kiz-phragmen-election
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// split new set into winners and runner ups. | ||
let split_point = desired_seats.min(new_set.len()); | ||
let mut new_members = (&new_set[..split_point]).to_vec(); | ||
let runner_ups = &new_set[split_point..] |
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should be runners_up
. you might want to do a search-replace.
* phragmen election module. * Add new files. * Some doc update * Update weights. * bump and a few nits. * Performance improvement. * Master.into() * Update srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs Co-Authored-By: Gavin Wood <[email protected]> * Fix build * Some fixes. * Fix build. * Proper outgoing and runner-up managment. * Bit more sensical weight values. * Update srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs * Update srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs Co-Authored-By: Gavin Wood <[email protected]> * Update srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs Co-Authored-By: Gavin Wood <[email protected]> * Update srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs Co-Authored-By: Gavin Wood <[email protected]> * fix lock file * Fix build. * Remove runner-ups * Some refactors. * Add support for reporting voters. * Fix member check. * Remove equlize.rs * Update srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs * Update srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs * Update srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs Co-Authored-By: Gavin Wood <[email protected]> * Update srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs Co-Authored-By: Gavin Wood <[email protected]> * Bring back runner ups. * use decode_len * Better weight values. * Update bogus doc * Bump. * Update srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs Co-Authored-By: Gavin Wood <[email protected]> * Review comments. * One more test * Fix tests * Fix build * .. and fix benchmarks. * Update srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs * Version bump
# Membership Request Hi, I am Kian Paimani, known as @kianenigma. I have been working on Polkadot/Kusama through Parity since February 2019 and I can categorize my main contributions to Polkadot's ecosystem as follows: 1. Maintaining and developing the staking sub-system. 2. General FRAME development, especially testing and quality assurance. 3. Polkadot-native side-projects. 4. Education > My first contribution to Polkadot is also indeed related to staking: paritytech/substrate#1915 ### Staking system I joke as the Polkadot staking to be both my blessing and my curse over the years. I started working on it since the first days that I joined this ecosystem and the work [is ongoing ever since](https://github.com/orgs/paritytech/projects/33/views/9). In the past, I focused on making sure that the staking system is secure and to some extent scalable. More recently, I coordinated the (imminent) launch of Nomination Pools. Nowadays I also put an extra effort on making sure that this sub-system of Polkadot is *sustainable*, through code refactor and educating other core developers. Lastly, I have been the main author of the [Polkadot staking newsletter](https://gist.github.com/kianenigma/aa835946455b9a3f167821b9d05ba376), which is my main attempt at making the entire complexity and development of this part of the protocol transparent to the end-users. I expect myself to contribute *directly* to the staking system for at least another ~12, if not more, and afterwards having the role of an advisor. Some notable contributions: - paritytech/substrate#4517 - paritytech/substrate#7910 - paritytech/substrate#6242 - paritytech/substrate#9415 - paritytech/polkadot#3141 - paritytech/substrate#11212 - paritytech/substrate#12129 ### FRAME Historically, I have contributed a variety of domains in FRAME, namely: - Early version of the weight system paritytech/substrate#3816 paritytech/substrate#3157 - Early version of the transaction fee system - Primitive arithmetic types paritytech/substrate#3456 - Council election pallet paritytech/substrate#3364 Many of which were, admittedly, a PoC at most, if not considered "poor". I am happy that nowadays many of the above have been refactored and are being maintained by new domain experts. These days, I put most of my FRAME focus on testing and quality assurance. Through my work in the staking system, I have had to deal with the high sensitivity and liveness requirement of protocol development first hand (I believe I had to do among the [very first storage migrations](paritytech/substrate#3948) in Kusama) and consequently I felt the need to make better testing facilities, all of which have been formulated in https://forum.polkadot.network/t/testing-complex-frame-pallets-discussion-tools/356. Some relevant PRs: - paritytech/substrate#8038 - paritytech/substrate#9788 - paritytech/substrate#10174 Regardless of wearing the staking hat, I plan to remain a direct contributor to FRAME, namely because I consider it to be an important requirements of successfully delivering more features to Polkadot's ecosystem. ### Polkadot-Native Side Projects I have started multiple small, mostly non-RUST projects in the polkadot ecosystem that I am very happy about, and I plan to continue doing so. I have not yet found the time to make a "polished product" out of any of these, but I hope that I can help foster our community such that someday a team will do so. I consider my role, for the time being, to *put ideas out there* through these side projects. - https://github.com/substrate-portfolio/polkadot-portfolio/ - https://github.com/kianenigma/polkadot-basic-notification/ - https://github.com/paritytech/polkadot-scripts/ - https://github.com/paritytech/substrate-debug-kit/ ### Education Lastly, aside from having had a number of educational talks over the years (all of which [are listed](https://hello.kianenigma.nl/talks/) in my personal website), I am a big enthusiast of the newly formed Polkadot Blockchain Academy. I have [been an instructor](https://singular.app/collectibles/statemine/16/2) in the first cohort, and continue to contribute for as long and as much as I can, whilst still attending to the former 3 duties. --- With all of that being said and done, I consider myself at the beginning of the path to Dan 4, but happy to start at a lower one as well.
# Membership Request Hi, I am Kian Paimani, known as @kianenigma. I have been working on Polkadot/Kusama through Parity since February 2019 and I can categorize my main contributions to Polkadot's ecosystem as follows: 1. Maintaining and developing the staking sub-system. 2. General FRAME development, especially testing and quality assurance. 3. Polkadot-native side-projects. 4. Education > My first contribution to Polkadot is also indeed related to staking: paritytech/substrate#1915 ### Staking system I joke as the Polkadot staking to be both my blessing and my curse over the years. I started working on it since the first days that I joined this ecosystem and the work [is ongoing ever since](https://github.com/orgs/paritytech/projects/33/views/9). In the past, I focused on making sure that the staking system is secure and to some extent scalable. More recently, I coordinated the (imminent) launch of Nomination Pools. Nowadays I also put an extra effort on making sure that this sub-system of Polkadot is *sustainable*, through code refactor and educating other core developers. Lastly, I have been the main author of the [Polkadot staking newsletter](https://gist.github.com/kianenigma/aa835946455b9a3f167821b9d05ba376), which is my main attempt at making the entire complexity and development of this part of the protocol transparent to the end-users. I expect myself to contribute *directly* to the staking system for at least another ~12, if not more, and afterwards having the role of an advisor. Some notable contributions: - paritytech/substrate#4517 - paritytech/substrate#7910 - paritytech/substrate#6242 - paritytech/substrate#9415 - paritytech/polkadot#3141 - paritytech/substrate#11212 - paritytech/substrate#12129 ### FRAME Historically, I have contributed a variety of domains in FRAME, namely: - Early version of the weight system paritytech/substrate#3816 paritytech/substrate#3157 - Early version of the transaction fee system - Primitive arithmetic types paritytech/substrate#3456 - Council election pallet paritytech/substrate#3364 Many of which were, admittedly, a PoC at most, if not considered "poor". I am happy that nowadays many of the above have been refactored and are being maintained by new domain experts. These days, I put most of my FRAME focus on testing and quality assurance. Through my work in the staking system, I have had to deal with the high sensitivity and liveness requirement of protocol development first hand (I believe I had to do among the [very first storage migrations](paritytech/substrate#3948) in Kusama) and consequently I felt the need to make better testing facilities, all of which have been formulated in https://forum.polkadot.network/t/testing-complex-frame-pallets-discussion-tools/356. Some relevant PRs: - paritytech/substrate#8038 - paritytech/substrate#9788 - paritytech/substrate#10174 Regardless of wearing the staking hat, I plan to remain a direct contributor to FRAME, namely because I consider it to be an important requirements of successfully delivering more features to Polkadot's ecosystem. ### Polkadot-Native Side Projects I have started multiple small, mostly non-RUST projects in the polkadot ecosystem that I am very happy about, and I plan to continue doing so. I have not yet found the time to make a "polished product" out of any of these, but I hope that I can help foster our community such that someday a team will do so. I consider my role, for the time being, to *put ideas out there* through these side projects. - https://github.com/substrate-portfolio/polkadot-portfolio/ - https://github.com/kianenigma/polkadot-basic-notification/ - https://github.com/paritytech/polkadot-scripts/ - https://github.com/paritytech/substrate-debug-kit/ ### Education Lastly, aside from having had a number of educational talks over the years (all of which [are listed](https://hello.kianenigma.nl/talks/) in my personal website), I am a big enthusiast of the newly formed Polkadot Blockchain Academy. I have [been an instructor](https://singular.app/collectibles/statemine/16/2) in the first cohort, and continue to contribute for as long and as much as I can, whilst still attending to the former 3 duties. --- With all of that being said and done, I consider myself at the beginning of the path to Dan 4, but happy to start at a lower one as well. Co-authored-by: Bastian Köcher <[email protected]>
substrate/srml/elections-phragmen/src/lib.rs
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Before merge, should consider:
node/runtime
if needed.Maybe in this PR, maybe later: