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RFC: Make Calculus required, move other elective math to Advanced #841
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Machine Learning is in Core Applications and lists Linear Algebra as a pre-requisite. How will moving Linear Algebra affect this core class? I will quote from @spamegg:
Notably, "matrix multiplication, understanding how rows and columns work, how to match the dimensions of the matrices correctly, and how taking transposes will swap row size and column size" are high school math expectations. This can be seen in the US Common Core high school math standards. High School: Number and Quantity » Vector & Matrix Quantities This suggests that MIT's Linear Algebra can be moved to Elective Math without affecting this course. |
Computer Graphics is in Core Applications and lists Linear Algebra as a pre-requisite. How will moving Linear Algebra affect this core class? Again, I quote from @spamegg:
This does require college level Linear Algebra. Moving Linear Algebra will affect this course. I argue that this is reason to reevaluate our choices for a Computer Graphics course. Our curricular guidelines expect only an introduction to graphics in core classes. The topics expected to be covered are: [Core-Tier1]
[Core-Tier2]
However, our Computer Graphics course objectives go far beyond these:
In addition, the computer graphics course includes a final assignment so difficult that the University's own follow-on MOOC specifies "You do not need to have done the final raytracer assignment". Based on this, contributors should expect an RFC from me to move Computer Graphics into Advanced. |
@waciumawanjohi Oof! I feel super responsible now... Hope people don't get mad at me in the future. Ditto on your first comment about LA and ML. But I have a feeling that people will take ML and complain... I should add that vectors and matrices in ONLY 2 or 3 dimensions is not considered real Linear Algebra.
I taught this to many students who never saw matrices before. This material is taught somewhere along the Calculus sequence before proper Multivariable Calculus. That's why I had difficulty describing it ("intersection of LA and Vector Calculus"), hope this clarifies things a bit. Edit: I should add that in the worst case, I can write a 15-20 page PDF to cover this subject enough to enable students to tackle CG without taking full MVC. |
I know we tend to quote curricular guidelines, but they tend to be much more permissive than reality. I feel that this is one manifestation of such a disconnect. While the curriculum guidelines allow a school to build a CS degree that's light on math, actual practice suggests otherwise. I've looked at CS degree requirements at several state universities and private colleges, and I've noticed a tendency to require Discrete Math AND Calculus 1 and 2 AND Linear Algebra, as well as a choice of additional math credit. It's common to not specifically require multivariate calculus, differential equations, probability, or mathematical statistics, though these are frequently available as electives to fulfill the additional requirement. For OSSU, I firmly agree that Single-Variable Calculus (A-B-C or 1-2) should be required, and that Math for CS should remain required. I further believe we should either specifically require linear algebra, or specifically require one additional elective math credit. This would truly drive parity with most of the actual CS degree programs I see. |
It may be worthwhile to conduct a meta-analysis of the US News Top 100 CS degree programs, to ensure that our requirements are on parity with many/most of these schools - and to provide documentation/reality check of the same. |
I believe MIT covers what @spamegg1 is talking about in 18.02 Multivariable Calculus Unit 1 Parts A and B. The disconnect between CS2013 and reality is likely because ABET requires 15 credits of math in a cs degree. To get away with just Single Variable Calculus and Math for CS, Calculus 1 and 2 need to be 5 credits each as does Math for CS. They're usually 3-4 credit courses though so there needs to be another 1-2 math courses. ABET also requires 6 credits of lab science too so you'll often see a two course sequence in physics or chemistry. I like the thinking of CS2013 of not worrying about either of those, leaving them to the gened side of things, but I'm not advanced enough to know a lot about the intersection between math and cs. It's worth noting that US News only ranks graduate level cs programs, not undergraduate. The only undergraduate cs ranking that I know of is TimesHigherEducation, which has the advantage of being international |
A significant reason for adopting the curricular standards is to free OSSU from doing this work. It's not a trivial effort. As far as I know, the only time an OSSU contributor has undertaken such an effort was 2 years ago when I looked into trends for languages used in intro programming courses. My stunning conclusion was that the evidence on the ground matched what was reported by in the CS2013. Quite simply, I don't think OSSU has the capacity to duplicate or improve on the investigations undertaken by the ACM and IEEE. And it's not clear that we would derive significant value even if we could. Having adopted the standards, we still have non-zero work to do in order to match them (see this issue). And there are lots of other efforts that OSSU can put energy into once we're confident that we fulfill the standards. (For example: mentorship) |
2 cents from a theoretical physicist (glorified mathematician with a cooler origin story): IMO calculus past basic integration/differentiation to understand the conceptual underpinnings is not as important to Computer Scientists as Linear Algebra. And even more important than either Linear Algebra or Calculus. Discrete Mathematics and Finite Element Analysis |
I think this curriculum is well suited https://www.smcm.edu/mathcs/academic-offerings/what-you-learn-cs/requirements/#option1. |
It's good they replace Calc 3 with Discrete Mathematics. (Relative to what I learned and what I was exposed to teaching engineering students.) And I otherwise agree depending on the content of the courses. Two semesters of Calculus can get into a lot of integration techniques which are cool on their own, but you'd never use again unless you do pen and paper calculations. If they spend two semesters really hammering home the conceptual underpinnings of Calculus and get into applications that would be the most ideal. |
The comment period for this RFC has passed. Findings: Conclusion: |
* Add security courses on a provisional basis. See ossu#639 * Include link to HtDP book and problem sets * Update readings.md * Added link to HW for Intro to Parallel Programming Intro to Parallel Programming's grader is broken, it's impossible to submit programming assignments. It's also impossible to compile and run the code on your PC, unless you own an nVidia GPU. Thankfully some nice folks on Github created a Google Research Colab page where you can compile and run your homeworks (unfortunately the Final Exam is not available and probably never will be). I understand this uses Google's GPU sharing. * Remove dead link * Simplify table of contents * Fix spelling mistake * Links to prerequisites courses added * Move courses to advanced Change the Haskell course suggestion. A big thank you to @aryzach for prompting the switch. Move courses to advanced programming. See Issue. Closes ossu#669 * Move curricular guidelines out of extras. * Clarify that CS2013 is the curricular guidance for OSSU Resolves ossu#679 * Add The Missing Semester Resolves ossu#678 * Replaced Hack the Kernel with OSTEP Implementing the proposal from issue 690: ossu#690 * Add note to Changelog that curriculum is > v8 and < v9. Resolves ossu#674 * Replace LAFF with MIT's OCW Scholar Linear Algebra Resolves ossu#693 * Reflect addition of new Intro section. * Make note more prominent * updated Software Engineering prereqs and added relevant FAQ * Update README.md * Update link to curricular guidelines * Remove link to dead domain * Update link for Compiler Construction * Change Programming Languages Part A Prereq Resolves 716 * How to audit the intro to programming courses Resolves ossu#724 * Updated PROJECTS.md Finished Specialization, using its Capstone as Final Project * Update README.md * Update OS Course Version Resolves ossu#707 * Update README.md * Update README.md Removed LAFF, changed Parallel Programming * Update courses.md Moved Intro to Parallel Programming to Extras * Update readings.md Removed Sheldon Axler's "Linear Algebra Done Right (FREE)" because it is no longer free after the end of July 2020. It was made free temporarily due to COVID-19. * Python for Everyone > Python for Everybody The course, book and website all say everybody instead of everyone. Just a little nit I noticed. * Switch Python for Everybody link Students regularly ask in Gitter how to audit Python for Everybody (Py4E). The instructor of Py4E has created a free version on a standalone site. This has been the alternate link. Instead this should be the main link. * Replace previous Probability course Added a new probability course called Stat110 from Harvard, and moved the previous one to the extra courses page. * Update README.md * Add new question to FAQ Tighten language on some FAQ answers * Rearrange order of FAQ questions * Simplify Intro to Programming Resolves ossu#763 * Raise duration estimate to match Coursera's estimate * Course listing should match course title * Update .gitignore * Use Stanford Database courses Stanford Database courses had long been part of the OSSU curriculum. When Stanford pulled down their platform Lagunita, OSSU had to find a new offering. With the Stanford material back on edX, OSSU should return to this high quality offering. Resolves ossu#718 Resolves ossu#709 * Change chat from Gitter to Discord * Add 'Discussion' header to Core Math and Core Systems * Re-add newsletter link * Remove unnecessary coursework from Advanced Systems. Resolves ossu#772 * Delete reference to cohorts repo. Cohorts repo was closed after an RFC. Resolves ossu#780 * Removed redundant note from Advanced Systems The note was referring to Electricity & Magnetism classes, which were removed. * Update HELP.md A server admin will have to enable the discord widget in the settings for the discord server * Update help.md [#173862703] Authored-by: Waciuma Wanjohi <[email protected]> * Replaced FutureLearn pre-calculus with Khan Academy - To be more consistent with our Khan Academy recommendation elsewhere in the curriculum - also some students expressed confusion with the FutureLearn course * Added link to Interactive Exercises from Kurose-Ross textbook website * Update FAQ language and order [#173862703] Authored-by: Waciuma Wanjohi <[email protected]> * Use Discord Widget [#173862703] Authored-by: Waciuma Wanjohi <[email protected]> * Update math prereq columns * Changed Py4E hours of effort to match OSSU expected weekly effort levels * Removed errant submodule added on prior commit * Prerequisite section mention of high school math links to FAQ * Remove dead link. Resolves ossu#795 * Move the Missing Semester later in curriculum Resolves ossu#778 * Clarify that OSSU is not working in partnership with any org to offer degrees. * Fixed Advanced Systems dead links * Match recommended calc to course listed prereqs https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-probability 'Familiarity with U.S. high school level algebra concepts; Single-variable calculus: familiarity with matrices, derivatives and integrals.' * replace dead link Fix for [computer-science/issues/825](ossu#825) * Update Newsletter Address * Add link to completion estimate chart Discord user crokei26#1613 created an initial version of this great resource. A huge thanks to them! * Removed Formal Concept Analysis (fixes ossu#818) - fixes ossu#818 - removed `CUDA` and `GPU programming` from topics (left over from before) * Direct Py4E students directly to the lessons * Switch Math for CS from OCW to OLL Implement ossu#832 * add two new books on systems * Add section to FAQ about alts * Sharpen FAQ answer language * Remove direct link to issues We often get issues opened that are empty, with no text or description of a problem. This may be because learners follow the link from the Community section, and post in order to interact. By removing the link (but keeping the link to the contributing instructions) we can hopefully direct new learners in how to interact productively. * Move CS50 to Courses/Extras Resolves ossu#833 * Remove prereq not mentioned by course creators * Remove topic that is not covered in the section * changed the discord invites Changed the 2 invite links (one inside the svg) to direct to the #welcome discord channel. Also changed some relevant language. * Update Game Design specialization Bump to new version * Include edX financial aid information * feat: Change order of database courses * Update issue templates * Changed link to Effective Thinking Through Mathematics course in extras (issue ossu#870) (ossu#871) * Changed link to Effective Thinking Through Mathematics course in extras * Delete .DS_Store Co-authored-by: Jonathan Hustad <[email protected]> Co-authored-by: waciumawanjohi <[email protected]> * updated Prolog link, added PDF version (fixes ossu#868) (ossu#873) * updated Prolog link, added PDF version * updated Prolog link, added PDF version - removed `Text` column, added footnote instead * updated Prolog link, added PDF version - parentheses * updated Prolog link, added PDF version - added link to book source code * Updated links to both HtC Simple and Complex Data * Added alt link to ocw version of 6.002 in extra courses (ossu#885) * added OCW alt link for 6.002 in extra courses * fixed parenthesis * Update books' editions * Updated the links for books that have a newer edition. I have included the authors' home page for the book where possible. * Updated some titles to reflect the linked edition. I have maintained the original format (``2e`` for the books in the ``Programming`` section ``(2nd Edition)`` for the books in the other sections). Unifying the format could be something to consider. * More realistic estimate for OS course Hi, I am currently taking this course and I am about half way into it. I already have a CS degree and I've been working as a developer for ~8 years. The course is very interesting and comprehensive. If you want to do this course properly, I think 6 hours per week for this course is bare minimum: - There are ~3 hours of lectures each week - The original course is split into 14 weeks - Each chapter has homework at the end of it - Homeworks are not very difficult, but some of them require significant amount of work - Projects require significant amount of work * Update other_curricula.md Add new curriculum (writing started Summer 2019) See more: https://github.com/functionalCS * Reflects locked down CS Timeline Spreadsheet * Spreadsheet link prompts users to make a personal copy * Remove course that is no longer offered Resolves ossu#907 * Make Calculus Required closes ossu#841 * Change calculus recommendation to OLL and OCW Resolves ossu#838, ossu#886 * Change Networking course to Kurose-Ross Resolves ossu#887 * Evaluation section update Change language to encourage students to be proactive in seeking feedback for projects. * Advanced Applications subsumed by Project Clarifies that the advanced application list is a subset of a larger, unspecified, set of adequate options. Advanced Applications was listed as a precursor and possible replacement for the final project. This merges the two and specifies that students may choose another avenue for creating a capstone project. Resolves ossu#830 * Update core math blurb Resolves ossu#921 * Removed Project with Dead Link 1. Removed Binary Machine project as repository link results is dead. 2. Fixed link to applications block. * Update Team * extras/courses: Add Introduction to Computational Thinking by MIT As noted here ossu#912 adding this course to The Math section * Add Algorithms by Sedgewick Add Algorithms by Robert Sedgewick on the basis that it's a freely available book from a reputable institution (it's the textbook for the Princeton Coursera courses). That being said, I haven't had the chance of reading the book so I can't personally comment on its quality. * Commit for RFC at issue ossu#933 (ossu#945) * Commit for RFC at issue ossu#933 Added by error Co-authored-by: Harsh <[email protected]> * Add The Linux Command Line book to Tools section in extra readings * Switch 3b1b Linear Algebra from pre to corequisite (ossu#927) Switch 3b1b Essence of Linear Algebra from prerequisite of MIT Linear Algebra to corequisite * Add interesting/useful reading resources (ossu#941) * fix: updated Computation Structures 1,2 & 3 links (ossu#953) * Add books, fix formatting * Add Ethics Course Ethics being a very important education in field of computer science. CS 2013 Says, while technical issues are central to the computing curriculum, they do not constitute a complete educational program in the field. Students must also be exposed to the larger societal context of computing to develop an understanding of the relevant social, ethical, legal and professional issues. This need to incorporate the study of these non-technical issues into the ACM curriculum was formally recognized in 1991. * Update README.md * Update Ethics Course Discord Links * Fix link formatting * fix some links * extras/books recommends Linear Algebra for Everyone closes ossu#910 * Add puzzles-practice to extras Closes ossu#783 * Added Intro to Numerical Analysis Added Introduction to Numerical Analysis by HSE, a CS2013 Elective Course. * Added alternative to Intro to NumAnalysis. Added MIT18-335J as an alternative to Introduction to Numerical Analysis. * Swapped Core security and Core applications links in the curriculum index to reflect the order of the page. Added a link for Core ethics to the index. Updated some capitalization. * Add answer on finding courses * Add cs-video-courses * Add link to goodreads in FAQ * Remove alternate course that is no longer offered. * Update README.md * Fixes typos * Update full stack open hours/week https://studies.cs.helsinki.fi/stats/courses/fullstackopen According to the course stats, every part takes at least 15 hours to finish on average. * update MathForCS dead alternate link * Remove note on provisional status Having closed the [RFC: Add Security Courses](ossu#639), it is time to remove the provisional label from the Core Security section. * Replace Numerical Analysis Course Resolves ossu#1006 * Typo fix * Fix typo * Math for CS 2010, 2015/2019 solutions * Add DSA Textbook to Extras Thank you to @hamzakat Closes ossu#994 * alternate links for Computation Structures * alternate links for Computation Structures improved formatting * added OSTEP course page * added OSTEP course page fixed typo * added OSTEP course page fixed typos, removed/updated links * added OSTEP course page updated prerequisites on README * Replace discontinued Intro Sec Course [Information Security: Context and Introduction](https://www.coursera.org/learn/information-security-data) has been discontinued. Replacing with [Cybersecurity Fundamentals](https://www.edx.org/course/cybersecurity-fundamentals) Resolves ossu#1041 * Update README.md * Update README.md * Add information security link to table of contents * hints and tips for OSTEP Project 2A * Rename intro file in directory to README.md Users browsing the directory structure will better understand which file to read first. * Fix typo Small typo fix * Update PROJECTS.md Reword the top description of PROJECTS.md to make it more clear what this section is about. * Swap Intro CS from edX to OpenCourseWare * change Logic course * Update LICENSE copyright year Signed-off-by: Ariston Lorenzo <[email protected]> * Improve links From a suggestion by @Alaharon123 here: ossu#1078 (comment) * Update exercism url to point to the current url * Add 2011 Berkeley SICP in Scheme to extras Since the Scheme version remains arguably as/more popular * Update PROJECTS.md * Update PROJECTS.md * update How to Design Programs textbook link * Update courses.md * Update courses.md * Update courses.md * Update courses.md * added resource explaining xv6 code for OSTEP * added resource explaining xv6 code for OSTEP fixed typo * Clarify OSTEP Options Direct most students to read OSTEP and complete homework. Direct only students specializing in systems to undertake the course projects Resolves ossu#1083 Co-authored-by: Waciuma Wanjohi <[email protected]> Co-authored-by: spamegg <[email protected]> * Clarify OSTEP: add missing link, fix prerequisite * Add structure to links * Update FAQ.md * Update CONTRIBUTING.md * Changed course for Theory of Computation to the one in openMIT (ossu#1125) Resolves ossu#1096 * Reduce time estimate for Probability * Correct link to resources below (ossu#1133) * fix core applications machine learning (ossu#1143) * Fix machine learning in core applications The machine learning course is only 3 weeks long, not 11. Further, it's a very gentle introductory course. Even the prerequisite of Basic coding is stretching it, but it is as listed on the course page. * Fix machine learning Machine learning should link to the entire specialization. The specialization is 11 weeks in all I believe, and they suggest 9 hours per week although that could be scaled down to 4-6 hours if you're just auditing. Also, the prerequisite should be basic coding, linear algebra is not necessary. Closes ossu#1118 * Add a new project from a student (ossu#1130) * Added a PR template for projects. (ossu#1136) * Update CURRICULAR_GUIDELINES.md Reference the upcoming CS2023 * Update LICENSE copyright years (ossu#1152) * Update course link Effective Thinking Through Mathematics * Census Announcement * Move census link to top of page * Correct the CS50 alt URL https://cs50.harvard.edu/ just redirects to Edx. The course is available at https://cs50.harvard.edu/x/ * Remove 2023 Census link * Add better link for How to Code courses Add the Systematic Program Design course (which consists of both parts of How to Code) as the main link and move How to Code to to alt. * Add backt the HTDP book * Add intro-programming course page (ossu#1177) * Create intro-programming course page (incomplete) * Complete the intro-prgramming page * Add intro-programming course page to the README file * Fix spellings * Fix the name of the Py4E course * Add alt for Computer Graphics Resolves ossu#1140 * Update Process Mention taking courses in parallel. Resolves ossu#1139 * Fix CS50P pset links * Changed typo 'strucked' to 'stucked' * fix typos * Create CNAME * Update CNAME * Delete CNAME * Create CNAME * Delete CNAME * Create CNAME * update Software Engineering: Introduction course * Add whitespace May address ossu#1191 * Use full word rather than abbreviation for accessibility (ossu#1194) * Hopefully fix some confusions regarding alt courses Mention the full word "alternative" instead of the short form "alt" which may cause confusion to non-native speakers. Also change "/" to "," for the two parts of HTC course. * Fixed the missing "alt" * Replace deleted course with its video playlist * Adding a new URL course for Git and GitHub because the old link invalid (ossu#1204) * Adding discussions channels * Remove mentions of outdated materials and add warning about them (ossu#1212) * Remove mentions of outdated materials and add warning about them * Remove the new warning blockquote syntax Seems like github pages don't support the new warning blockquote syntax * Update README.md with suggestion from @waciumawanjohi (1) Co-authored-by: Lenox Waciuma Wanjohi <[email protected]> * Update README.md with suggestion from @waciumawanjohi (2) Co-authored-by: Lenox Waciuma Wanjohi <[email protected]> * Update README.md with suggestion from @waciumawanjohi (3) Co-authored-by: Lenox Waciuma Wanjohi <[email protected]> --------- Co-authored-by: Lenox Waciuma Wanjohi <[email protected]> * add final project into PROJECTS.md * Move space between badges out of link text * fix: quick stupid case corrections for Discord can I brag about having contributed to ossu yet? :^) * Mark the Py4E course link as link The Py4E course link in the intro cs coursepage was not marked as link. While GitHub renders it as link, the GitHub pages website don't. This PR fixes that. The PR also fixes the CS50P discord invite link, which was expired. This time, I have made a link that never expires, and can be used an unlimited number of times. * Update page to use CSS for center alignment Uses mozilla recommended CSS for centering: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/web/html/element/center * Align with div attribute Github homepage does not respect the CSS centering * Add Intro CS coursepage and replace the OCW version with an archived version on Edx (ossu#1224) * Create README.md * Add link to Intro CS course page * Update README.md * Update courses.md This change is adding the interactive, open-source, community-led SICP version that was adapted into JavaScript. This addition seems worthwhile because JavaScript may be a more appealing language to go through SICP with than the original Scheme. In addition, this JavaScript version of SICP was created with the apparent goal of being as close to the original Scheme version as possible: https://sourceacademy.org/sicpjs/prefaces03 * Add SPD coursepage (ossu#1225) * Create README.md * Add files via upload * Update README.md * Add files via upload * Update README.md * Update README.md * Update readings.md * Update README.md * Update README.md * Delete coursepages/spd/HTC2X.zip * Delete coursepages/spd/htc-simple.zip * Delete coursepages/spd/space-invaders-starter.rkt * Delete coursepages/spd/ta-solver-starter.rkt * Update README.md * Add files via upload * Add info about eabling automatic parentheses, square brackets and quotes * Remove the newsletter link The newsletter link does not work anymore. 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Problem:
Currently Math for CS is a required course. It has a pre-req of Calculus. Calculus is listed as an elective course, but this dependency means that it is actually required.
Duration:
Jan 23, 20201
Background:
For an excellent writeup of how the Math curriculum arrived at its current state, I direct readers to here:
#768 (comment)
In short, our curricular guidelines do not require calculus, but do require a college level math course that enables students to build mathematical maturity. As such calculus is offered as one of 4 math options. Our curricular guidelines do require discrete math, which we meet with MIT's Math for CS. But MIT's Math for CS lists calculus as a prerequisite.
This tension has been pointed out before. There have since been users on Github and in Discord that ask whether calculus is actually elective. Also when the math requirements were reduced, there were calls to make Calculus required. This ambiguity needlessly confuses learners.
Proposal:
List Calculus as required and move Math Electives to Advanced.
Alternatives:
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