Player Provider Poll #1

[OzGav]

When the HA integration is written all of the HA media players will become available. However, native player support in MA will ensure that all MA features will be supported. The list below is taken from existing requests in these discussions but there are about 80 integrations in HA tagged with media player so if you want to suggest another then put it in the comments but before you do check if someone else has already asked for it and if so just upvote the comment.

If you would like to discuss these options in more detail then here are the threads.
Roku https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/1038 and https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/430
MPD https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/1170
HEOS https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/1167
Companion App https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/396
Alexa https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/431
Web Browser https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/436
Yamaha Multicast https://github.com/orgs/music-assistant/discussions/409

[Guigui37]

Kodi

[OzGav]

My kodi already shows as an Airplay and DLNA player?

[Guigui37]

Does it works ? Because here I see it also, but does not work (as DLNA player, not tested with airplay)

[OzGav]

Actually looks like there might be an issue as MA is not seeing my Kodi box now. Lets see what happens with b28 which is due in the next 24 hours

[marcelveldt]

Kodi can also be controlled natively which I think is preferred over its dlna or airplay implementation ?

[Guigui37]

Onkyo (DLNA not working yet)

[marcelveldt]

Onkyo receivers do not have a native protocol/api for playback. They use Chromecast and Airplay.
Another alternative is to hook a simple streaming puck to it, connected to its optical port. For example Chromecast audio (if you can get your hands on one) or otherwise any squeezelite compatible device is fine.

Once the HA integration is done we are going to offer a feature where you can attach "controls" from HA to your player devices in MA. For example attach the volume control and source selection of your Onkyo receiver to a chromecast based player.

[regpro-bv]

Hi Marcel, although this thread is quite old, I do have multiple Onkyo NCP-302 and also a receiver that is using FlareConnect technology.
Is it possible to use music-assistant via this technology?

Appwise, Onkyo provided either https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onkyo.playfi&hl=en_US or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onkyo.jp.onkyocontroller&hl=en_US

[OzGav]

Someone would need to step in to write this if it is possible. There is no spare capacity for new features at the moment.

[RJ-Make]

Web browser as in "This Device"

[OzGav]

Is this a question?

[RJ-Make]

Sorry, Yes is it the web player that provides the "On This Device"?

[OzGav]

Yes that is the idea. Please see the linked discussion

[OzGav]

Just want to add that the Snapcast provider allows playback to any web browser. This is the current solution. Also the latest beta allows playback to Fully Kiosk Browsers.

[nagyrobi]

• Linkplay (I've sent a device to @marcelveldt)
• Squeezebox / SlimProto

[marcelveldt]

• Linkplay (I've sent a device to @marcelveldt)
• Squeezebox / SlimProto

True! I did not forget about that. As Linkplay is a pretty popular platform it should indeed be on the list.

[Makrokaba]

Sure? ;-) I'd also love to see Linkplay supported - especially since the universal group player does not sync them any more.

[mitrokun]

Linkplay is still in the plans? Now the most stable work with these players is possible when using DLNA. In the airplay or HA media players mode, they work unstably.
It would be great to use the built-in multiroom mechanism.

[thomail]

Samsung Multiroom (WAMxxx)

[thmedia2]

Also would love to see this, as a remark to others: there is a hacs integration that allows to bring the devices in HA

[OzGav]

Not for long it is moving to HA core this week!

[SeByDocKy]

Raspiaudio devices of course....(I even find surprizing to not find ithem in the list because when MA V1 was lunch, raspiaudio was the player used in the HA live)

[marcelveldt]

raspiaudio devices work already using slimproto (so install the squeezelite firmware on it). What is missing is esphome support which will follow as soon as MA and HA are connected again.

[SeByDocKy]

Yes sorry I should mention ESPhome flashed :) ... I got a stupid reflex to not imagine some ESP32 flashed with something different than ESPhome :)... So I will wait this MA V2 update

[polmdm]

Hi everyone,
it would be great if it were possible to have the 3.5mm jack output of the raspberry directly as a music player so that it could be connected directly to the home audio system without having to go through additional hardware.

Apparently there is no out of the box solution on home assistant that integrates local playlists, radio and takes advantage of the 3.5mm jack. Thank you very much

[nagyrobi]

Try PiCorePlayer on the Pi, and add it as a slimproto device.

[polmdm]

Thank you, I'll give it a try. Nevertheless I would need an RPi, other the one on which I am currently running HA & MA, in the network, right?

[nagyrobi]

Maybe https://github.com/dingedan/Hassio_addons/tree/master/local_audio_player

[OzGav]

Or the squeeze lite addon

[srout1967]

Hi, when can we use MA2.0 with esphome media players ?

[OzGav]

Either when enough people vote for it here and it gets some native support or when the HA integration is written which will expose the HA media players,

[malvin84]

I really miss this in the new MA. Anyone aware of any HA integration that would expose HA mplayers already?

[OzGav]

This is on the roadmap so we ask for your patience

[sambarlick]

Is it possible for Emby support too?

[OzGav]

This is the player provider poll. You need to vote for Emby in music provider poll #2

[sambarlick]

Sorry I didn't realise there was a second poll, thanks.

[quizzical86]

HEOS followed closely by Web Browser seem to be the clear winners of the poll. Am I right in assuming that this will guide the dev team in where to focus but that you have no clue at this stage whether support could be added in the next months or rather next year?

[OzGav]

Correct. Do note the first sentence in the poll description.

[quizzical86]

Well noted thanks :-)
But from my experience with Music Assistant V1, I don't expect the Home Assistant HEOS integration to work well with MA V2.

[OzGav]

Ok then hopefully we can squash enough bugs to get capacity to look at these other player providers sooner rather than later

[jumblies]

ESPHome

[mplinuxgeek]

Installed MA specifically for use with ESPHome but found no support :(

I want to start getting rid of Google Cast devices...

[malvin84]

According to @OzGav
"OzGav
Jun 28, 2023
Maintainer Author

This is on the roadmap so we ask for your patience" however we would humbly ask for an update pleeease :)

[OzGav]

ESP devices that will run the squeezelite firmware will work now.

Other ESP devices will be supported in the future, probably by leveraging off the HA devices but that may come at the cost of some advanced functionality. Time will tell on that one.

[mplinuxgeek]

I know, I've poked around hence how I ended up here, just putting my vote in as ESPHome audio devices are getting pretty popular.

[heibertelf]

Squeezelite is a good step, but the beauty of the ESPhome speaker is that it is also a voice assistant, and in general, the platform allows you to attach buttons, LEDs, sensors, etc. to the speaker. And here are all the possibilities for deep integration with the smart home.
In fact, the basic ideology is DIY, which means the possibility to realize what I myself have thought up and wanted to implement in the form of a homemade device without being an advanced programmer.
So it's very cool to see such integrations as Music Assistant in HASS, and even more cool to be able to interact with homemade ESPhome devices. Really looking forward to it and hope to see it in the near future. Thanks for your efforts and good luck!

[fredamn76]

Jellyfin 🙏

[OzGav]

Sorry @fredamn76 you need to say that in the music provider poll :-) This poll is for physical players

[fredamn76]

Ok. I´m sorry.

[creatvty]

I read everywhere you are supposed to vote for ESPHOME if you want it. Am I blind or is it not on the list?

[OzGav]

List is limited to eight. Upvote the post two up from here

[creatvty]

I see, thanks

[topogio]

Bose SoundTouch/Cinemate

[pickonedev]

FULLY KIOSK BROWSER

I would like to see that MA it will work with "Fully Kiosk Browser" media_player entities. More than that, if this can play music in sync through this, it will be maximum achievement 🥇

[OzGav]

Dodgy rounding... :-)

[OzGav]

A basic Fully Kiosk player is available in the latest beta 87. However, beta 87 has introduced some other nasty bugs so we are not recommending an upgrade at the moment. However if you have a test machine and would like to try out the new player and check for bugs in it that would be great!

[pickonedev]

The Fully Kiosk Player is the best feature which this addon can have. When I saw it, I didn't believe it first.
It is great, it is working, but now it has a very small desync between devices (max 1 second), and the music was played on 5 identical devices.

[pickonedev]

Thank you @OzGav <3

[OzGav]

Yes I haven't spoken to Marcel but unfortunately I doubt there is any possibility to sync the playback as Fully Kiosk isn't designed to do that.

[nagyrobi]

See esphome/feature-requests#2456 for a nice idea using ESPHome BT Proxy...
Play audio to any bluetooth speaker anywhere in the house through this.

• multiroom
• announcements

[77Silvermane77]

Bluesound for me pls :)

[yzlnew]

Is it possible for Xiaomi speakers? I can get its entity through hass-xiaomi-miot.

[yzlnew]

More details, my model is Xiaomi Sound Pro, which supports a modified DLNA (can't be auto detected), Airplay 2 (similar 3rd party player error, consistently disconnected, no sound).

[odowd]

Bose headphones (bluetooth)

[OzGav]

picoreplayer can do this https://youtu.be/OdLSWnAanw8?si=I0clTovCSdS3Yf77

[wimjanse]

Bluesound please

[Dwarlor]

Bluesound would be great! At the moment my Bluesound Pulse Flex speakers are not visible in MASS. They are however added to Home Assistant...

[iorifly]

Please, please! Alexa!!

[vbl315]

By the way, there is a mistake in the voting. Yamaha's platform is called Music Cast, not Multicast. Fix it, please. I googled the keywords "Yamaha Music Cast" and couldn't find this thread for obvious reasons.
Also, in my opinion, there is no need to separate "Yamaha Music Cast" and "Yamaha reciever", because Yamaha network receivers without Music Cast are very old, they are quite few and they are devoid of a platform as such, only basic DLNA capabilities

[OzGav]

Unfortunately to change the text would result in the vote being reset. Sorry for the inconvenience in being able to find it. Your text above will now help.

[vbl315]

If you want to understand the real number of users of a particular platform, you should look at the number of downloads and the number of ratings in the Google Play Market, for example. The data from the vote, in which 400 people were hired, is not very representative. If we compare Yamaha Music Cast app and Danon HEOS app, Yamaha Music cast app has 50% more reviews

[orangesunny]

This poll is not about arguing which player platform has more users. According to the comments of all other participants, this seems to exist to learn how many of Music Assistant users want/need an integration for their player platform that is not supported in MA yet.

[zenguru84]

does anyone use yoradio? it's nice and it has a basic integration with HA, i can control it from media player card, but not available under players in music assistant.. :(
https://github.com/e2002/yoradio

[OzGav]

You can add this via the HA player provider. How well it works though will be dependent on the capabilities of the HA integration

[dunxd]

Airplay to AppleTV - airplay to speakers works, but not to AppleTV which is what I have connected to my surround sound receiver.