Add a help jumping-off page #456
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LearnOSM desperately needs iD/P2-friendly copy before it's a sensible recommendation for newbies, I fear. |
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On iD hotosm/learnosm#114 |
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I've put a test site up at http://help.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/help although you can basically see everything in the screen shot above anyway. |
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The problem, in my eyes, with LearnOSM isn't that it needs an chapter on iD as well as/instead of the Potlatch 2 chapter (which appears to be blank anyway) in the book part of the site, but rather the main HTML part. A new user is going to go to LearnOSM and hit the big green "New to OpenStreetMap?" button and then get to the "Getting Started Editing" section and be faced with instructions on how to download and install JOSM which is not a user friendly way to get somebody mapping... |
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Agree, let's make adding LearnOSM a separate issue from introducing the help page. |
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Should we just remove LearnOSM for now? |
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Do what you like but somehow I find the logic "we don't have a 'learn how to edit OSM with iD' resource so we'd rather remain silent about existing 'learn how to edit OSM with JOSM' resources a bit strange. What is this, the House Committee on Un-iD Editors? While we're at it, let's remove all JOSM references from the Wiki because "someone who wants to use JOSM will find out anyway", right? |
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Oh Frederik, do calm down. :) That really isn't what's being suggested at all. The issue is that if there is a button that says "Learn OSM", the well-intentioned newbie will click on it, because they want to learn how to use OSM. They will be told "first download JOSM", and will do so. They will then be told they need this thing called "Java", and will go and find that. After about half an hour their head will hurt, and they'll give up on OSM and do something else. That's not an attack on JOSM, just an acknowledgement that you should perhaps fly something light and simple before trying to pilot the Starship Enterprise. Until LearnOSM gets an iD tutorial, "Learn advanced editing" would be splendid alternative link text. |
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It's been about a month - what needs to be done, if anything, to move this forwards? |
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Well deciding what to do about LearnOSM is the main outstanding point isn't it? Alex suggested dropping it but I don't think that has actually been done. |
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Dropped LearnOSM and updated the layout to account for the user menu. |
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👍 We'll probably want to expand the links as we get more material of course. |
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This has been added by #498 as part of the redesign. |
This adds a simple jump off page to OSM's most prominent sources of help and documentation -- the new welcome page, LearnOSM, help.osm.org, and wiki.osm.org.
The latter two were available in the sidebar under "Help", but space there is limited, and having a dedicated page permits some explanatory text as well as the addition of the welcome page and LearnOSM.