Requiring pre-print DOI's for referenced works labelled as "in submision"

[Kevin-Mattheus-Moerman]

Over at openjournals/joss-reviews#691 (comment) the author cites one of their papers as:

Blankrot, Boaz, and Clemens Heitzinger. 2018. “Efficient Computational Design and
Optimization of Dielectric Metamaterial Devices.” Submitted for Publication.

I requested that they upload a pre-print e.g. to the OSF or to the engineering archive. Once the pre-print is available the authors can then add the DOI to the pre-print in the JOSS paper.

1. Do you think we should require that references to "in submission" works are accompanied by a DOI to a pre-print? I.e. if no DOI is provided the citation could remain "dead" if the work never gets accepted. e.g. we could add the following to this checkbox

• References: Do all archival references that should have a DOI list one (e.g., papers, datasets, software)? Do references to works "in submission" include a DOI to a pre-print?

2. Should we clarify that we allow pre-print citations? (some journals do not)

Kevin

[danielskatz]

While I generally would prefer authors to submit preprints and to link to them rather than citing vague "in submission" papers, I also don't think we can require it, since in some communities and some journals, there are either practices or rules against this.

So:

1. Do you think we should require that references to "in submission" works are accompanied by a DOI to a pre-print?

no, we should not require it, but we should say that we prefer it.

2. Should we clarify that we allow pre-print citations? (some journals do not)

yes

[rheiland]

To be clear, is it acceptable to first submit our paper as a preprint to biorxiv, and obtain a DOI there, before submitting to JOSS?

[arfon]

To be clear, is it acceptable to first submit our paper as a preprint to biorxiv, and obtain a DOI there, before submitting to JOSS?

I don't think JOSS papers should have two DOIs if that's what you're asking. We issue our own DOI for JOSS papers which cannot be predefined/chosen by the authors.

[rheiland]

I'm not sure if you're familiar with how bioRxiv operates, but typically, one publishes a preprint there and then, if/when it gets published elsewhere, they will acknowledge that and link to the "official" publication, e.g., https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/196709v2 So, presumably, the same would hold true for JOSS. I just didn't know if there were examples yet.

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