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Add linux.resources.devices and drop linux.devices #98
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Copying devices from the runtime host isn't particularly portable, and it's easy to mount any device nodes you need from the bundle itself (just like we'd mount any other files needed by the container). Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <[email protected]>
I'm don't know whether it's bad or good to force people to create devices themselves in bundle. I think all devices could be created by OCI implementation. |
For specifying device cgroups independent of device creation. I also split the cgroups section into sections for each class (the earlier docs were very terse). I'll flesh these sections out in future commits if the devices addition sounds acceptable. Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <[email protected]>
No I don't think it makes sense to have dev nodes created outside of the runtime -1 |
👎 I think that the runtime should create the device nodes. |
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 11:36:04AM -0700, Alexander Morozov wrote:
I expect most users would be covered by #95 here. Once you're |
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 11:40:00AM -0700, Michael Crosby wrote:
Can you explain why? |
because /dev includes much more than just device nodes and we have to set it up correctly. It will also break live migration when we have to migrate and we have fd's leaking in to the container from outside the rootfs. |
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 11:47:25AM -0700, Michael Crosby wrote:
So all the stuff under /dev that's not a device node just needs to
I'm missing this one completely. Is the important distinction rootfs |
I'd prefer to handle mknod and device cgroups independently [1,2], to avoid all this "If path is given..." and "If parameters is given..." special casing. But the overloaded approach has landed [3], so this commit documents the indended semantics [4]. I'm not sure how bundle authors are supposed to register deny cgroups rules [5]. [1]: opencontainers#98 [2]: opencontainers#99 [3]: opencontainers#94 (comment) [4]: opencontainers#94 (comment) [5]: opencontainers#94 (comment) Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <[email protected]>
On Thu, Aug 06, 2015 at 11:57:45AM -0700, W. Trevor King wrote:
There's a bit more detail on this in IRC today: 10:58 < crosbymichael> most alternate suggestions will work for common I don't see why having a rootfs/dev/null in your container wouldn't The permissions for mknod shouldn't matter, because the bundle author So I still see no technical reason that would require Also on IRC, @LK4D4 pointed out two use cases where config-defined a. Running multiple containers on one rootfs, where different For, (a) I'd probably put the modem device in the rootfs and just For (b), I'd just create all the device nodes, which might be $ find . -name dev -type d -execdir mknod … But still, these cases would be more conveniently handled by I'm less sure of the balance between these cases and a complication of |
On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 12:31:39PM -0700, W. Trevor King wrote:
After thinking this over this afternoon, I think dropping mknod "files": [ in the spec. So I'd rather just say “things that can be represented |
With mknod entries in linux.devices and cgroups entries in linux.resources.devices. Background discussion in [1]. For specifying device cgroups independent of device creation. This makes it easy to distinguish between configs that call for cgroup adjustments (which have linux.resources entries) from those that don't. Without this split, folks interested in making that distinction would have to parse the device section to determine if it included cgroup changes. This will also make it easy to drop either portion (mknod [2] or cgroups [3]) independently of the other if the project decides to do so. Using seperate sections for mknod and cgroups also allows us to avoid the complicated validation rules needed for the combined format mknod/cgroup [4]. Now that there is a section specific to supplying devices, I shifted the default device listing over from config-linux [5]. The /dev/ptmx entry is a bit awkward, since it's not a device, but it seemed to fit better over here. But I would also be fine leaving it with the other mounts in config-linux. The reference links are sorted into two blocks, with kernel-doc links sorted alphabetically followed by man pages sorted alphabetically by section. [1]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/y_Fsa2_jJaM Subject: Separate config entries for device mknod and cgroups? Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:46:55 -0700 Message-ID: <[email protected]> [2]: opencontainers#98 [3]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/qWHoKs8Fsrk Subject: removal of cgroups from the OCI Linux spec Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:01:59 +0000 Message-ID: <CAD2oYtO1RMCcUp52w-xXemzDTs+J6t4hS5Mm4mX+uBnVONGDfA@mail.gmail.com> [4]: opencontainers#101 [5]: opencontainers#171 (comment) Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <[email protected]>
With mknod entries in linux.devices and cgroups entries in linux.resources.devices. Background discussion in [1]. For specifying device cgroups independent of device creation. This makes it easy to distinguish between configs that call for cgroup adjustments (which have linux.resources entries) from those that don't. Without this split, folks interested in making that distinction would have to parse the device section to determine if it included cgroup changes. This will also make it easy to drop either portion (mknod [2] or cgroups [3]) independently of the other if the project decides to do so. Using seperate sections for mknod and cgroups also allows us to avoid the complicated validation rules needed for the combined format mknod/cgroup [4]. Now that there is a section specific to supplying devices, I shifted the default device listing over from config-linux [5]. The /dev/ptmx entry is a bit awkward, since it's not a device, but it seemed to fit better over here. But I would also be fine leaving it with the other mounts in config-linux. The reference links are sorted into two blocks, with kernel-doc links sorted alphabetically followed by man pages sorted alphabetically by section. [1]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/y_Fsa2_jJaM Subject: Separate config entries for device mknod and cgroups? Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:46:55 -0700 Message-ID: <[email protected]> [2]: opencontainers#98 [3]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/qWHoKs8Fsrk Subject: removal of cgroups from the OCI Linux spec Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:01:59 +0000 Message-ID: <CAD2oYtO1RMCcUp52w-xXemzDTs+J6t4hS5Mm4mX+uBnVONGDfA@mail.gmail.com> [4]: opencontainers#101 [5]: opencontainers#171 (comment) Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <[email protected]>
With mknod entries in linux.devices and cgroups entries in linux.resources.devices. Background discussion in [1]. For specifying device cgroups independent of device creation. This makes it easy to distinguish between configs that call for cgroup adjustments (which have linux.resources entries) from those that don't. Without this split, folks interested in making that distinction would have to parse the device section to determine if it included cgroup changes. This will also make it easy to drop either portion (mknod [2] or cgroups [3]) independently of the other if the project decides to do so. Using seperate sections for mknod and cgroups also allows us to avoid the complicated validation rules needed for the combined format mknod/cgroup [4]. Now that there is a section specific to supplying devices, I shifted the default device listing over from config-linux [5]. The /dev/ptmx entry is a bit awkward, since it's not a device, but it seemed to fit better over here. But I would also be fine leaving it with the other mounts in config-linux. The reference links are sorted into two blocks, with kernel-doc links sorted alphabetically followed by man pages sorted alphabetically by section. [1]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/y_Fsa2_jJaM Subject: Separate config entries for device mknod and cgroups? Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:46:55 -0700 Message-ID: <[email protected]> [2]: opencontainers#98 [3]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/qWHoKs8Fsrk Subject: removal of cgroups from the OCI Linux spec Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:01:59 +0000 Message-ID: <CAD2oYtO1RMCcUp52w-xXemzDTs+J6t4hS5Mm4mX+uBnVONGDfA@mail.gmail.com> [4]: opencontainers#101 [5]: opencontainers#171 (comment) Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <[email protected]>
With mknod entries in linux.devices and cgroups entries in linux.resources.devices. Background discussion in [1]. For specifying device cgroups independent of device creation. This makes it easy to distinguish between configs that call for cgroup adjustments (which have linux.resources entries) from those that don't. Without this split, folks interested in making that distinction would have to parse the device section to determine if it included cgroup changes. This will also make it easy to drop either portion (mknod [2] or cgroups [3]) independently of the other if the project decides to do so. Using seperate sections for mknod and cgroups also allows us to avoid the complicated validation rules needed for the combined format mknod/cgroup [4]. Now that there is a section specific to supplying devices, I shifted the default device listing over from config-linux [5]. The /dev/ptmx entry is a bit awkward, since it's not a device, but it seemed to fit better over here. But I would also be fine leaving it with the other mounts in config-linux. The reference links are sorted into two blocks, with kernel-doc links sorted alphabetically followed by man pages sorted alphabetically by section. [1]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/y_Fsa2_jJaM Subject: Separate config entries for device mknod and cgroups? Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:46:55 -0700 Message-ID: <[email protected]> [2]: opencontainers#98 [3]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/qWHoKs8Fsrk Subject: removal of cgroups from the OCI Linux spec Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:01:59 +0000 Message-ID: <CAD2oYtO1RMCcUp52w-xXemzDTs+J6t4hS5Mm4mX+uBnVONGDfA@mail.gmail.com> [4]: opencontainers#101 [5]: opencontainers#171 (comment) Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <[email protected]>
With mknod entries in linux.devices and cgroups entries in linux.resources.devices. Background discussion in [1]. For specifying device cgroups independent of device creation. This makes it easy to distinguish between configs that call for cgroup adjustments (which have linux.resources entries) from those that don't. Without this split, folks interested in making that distinction would have to parse the device section to determine if it included cgroup changes. This will also make it easy to drop either portion (mknod [2] or cgroups [3]) independently of the other if the project decides to do so. Using seperate sections for mknod and cgroups also allows us to avoid the complicated validation rules needed for the combined format mknod/cgroup [4]. Now that there is a section specific to supplying devices, I shifted the default device listing over from config-linux [5]. The /dev/ptmx entry is a bit awkward, since it's not a device, but it seemed to fit better over here. But I would also be fine leaving it with the other mounts in config-linux. The reference links are sorted into two blocks, with kernel-doc links sorted alphabetically followed by man pages sorted alphabetically by section. The cgroup link is new since 2016-01-13 [6]. [1]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/y_Fsa2_jJaM Subject: Separate config entries for device mknod and cgroups? Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:46:55 -0700 Message-ID: <[email protected]> [2]: opencontainers#98 [3]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/qWHoKs8Fsrk Subject: removal of cgroups from the OCI Linux spec Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:01:59 +0000 Message-ID: <CAD2oYtO1RMCcUp52w-xXemzDTs+J6t4hS5Mm4mX+uBnVONGDfA@mail.gmail.com> [4]: opencontainers#101 [5]: opencontainers#171 (comment) [6]: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=34a9304a96d6351c2d35dcdc9293258378fc0bd8 Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <[email protected]>
With mknod entries in linux.devices and cgroups entries in linux.resources.devices. Background discussion in [1]. For specifying device cgroups independent of device creation. This makes it easy to distinguish between configs that call for cgroup adjustments (which have linux.resources entries) from those that don't. Without this split, folks interested in making that distinction would have to parse the device section to determine if it included cgroup changes. This will also make it easy to drop either portion (mknod [2] or cgroups [3]) independently of the other if the project decides to do so. Using seperate sections for mknod and cgroups also allows us to avoid the complicated validation rules needed for the combined format mknod/cgroup [4]. Now that there is a section specific to supplying devices, I shifted the default device listing over from config-linux [5]. The /dev/ptmx entry is a bit awkward, since it's not a device, but it seemed to fit better over here. But I would also be fine leaving it with the other mounts in config-linux. fileMode, uid, and gid are optional, because mknod(2) doesn't need them and specifies the handling when they aren't set [6,7]. Similarly, major/minor numbers are only required for S_IFCHR and S_IFBLK [6]. I've left off wording about required runtime behavior for unset values, because I'd rather address that with a blanket rule [8]. For the cgroup, access is optional because the kernel docs show an example that doesn't write an access field to the devices.deny file [9]. The current kernel docs don't go into much detail on this behavior (I expect unset and 'rwm' are equivalent), but if the kernel doesn't need a value written, the spec should get out of the way and allow users to not specify a value. The reference links are sorted into two blocks, with kernel-doc links sorted alphabetically followed by man pages sorted alphabetically by section. The cgroup link is new since 2016-01-13 [10]. [1]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/y_Fsa2_jJaM Subject: Separate config entries for device mknod and cgroups? Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:46:55 -0700 Message-ID: <[email protected]> [2]: opencontainers#98 [3]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/qWHoKs8Fsrk Subject: removal of cgroups from the OCI Linux spec Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:01:59 +0000 Message-ID: <CAD2oYtO1RMCcUp52w-xXemzDTs+J6t4hS5Mm4mX+uBnVONGDfA@mail.gmail.com> [4]: opencontainers#101 [5]: opencontainers#171 (comment) [6]: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/mknod.2.html#DESCRIPTION [7]: https://github.com/opencontainers/specs/pull/298/files#r51053835 [8]: opencontainers#285 (comment) [9]: https://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/cgroup-v1/devices.txt [10]: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=34a9304a96d6351c2d35dcdc9293258378fc0bd8 Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <[email protected]>
With mknod entries in linux.devices and cgroups entries in linux.resources.devices. Background discussion in [1]. For specifying device cgroups independent of device creation. This makes it easy to distinguish between configs that call for cgroup adjustments (which have linux.resources entries) from those that don't. Without this split, folks interested in making that distinction would have to parse the device section to determine if it included cgroup changes. This will also make it easy to drop either portion (mknod [2] or cgroups [3]) independently of the other if the project decides to do so. Using seperate sections for mknod and cgroups also allows us to avoid the complicated validation rules needed for the combined format mknod/cgroup [4]. Now that there is a section specific to supplying devices, I shifted the default device listing over from config-linux [5]. The /dev/ptmx entry is a bit awkward, since it's not a device, but it seemed to fit better over here. But I would also be fine leaving it with the other mounts in config-linux. fileMode, uid, and gid are optional, because mknod(2) doesn't need them and specifies the handling when they aren't set [6,7]. Similarly, major/minor numbers are only required for S_IFCHR and S_IFBLK [6]. I've left off wording about required runtime behavior for unset values, because I'd rather address that with a blanket rule [8]. For the cgroup, access is optional because the kernel docs show an example that doesn't write an access field to the devices.deny file [9]. The current kernel docs don't go into much detail on this behavior (I expect unset and 'rwm' are equivalent), but if the kernel doesn't need a value written, the spec should get out of the way and allow users to not specify a value. The reference links are sorted into two blocks, with kernel-doc links sorted alphabetically followed by man pages sorted alphabetically by section. The cgroup link is new since 2016-01-13 [10]. [1]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/y_Fsa2_jJaM Subject: Separate config entries for device mknod and cgroups? Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:46:55 -0700 Message-ID: <[email protected]> [2]: opencontainers#98 [3]: https://groups.google.com/a/opencontainers.org/forum/#!topic/dev/qWHoKs8Fsrk Subject: removal of cgroups from the OCI Linux spec Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 17:01:59 +0000 Message-ID: <CAD2oYtO1RMCcUp52w-xXemzDTs+J6t4hS5Mm4mX+uBnVONGDfA@mail.gmail.com> [4]: opencontainers#101 [5]: opencontainers#171 (comment) [6]: http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man2/mknod.2.html#DESCRIPTION [7]: https://github.com/opencontainers/specs/pull/298/files#r51053835 [8]: opencontainers#285 (comment) [9]: https://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/cgroup-v1/devices.txt [10]: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=34a9304a96d6351c2d35dcdc9293258378fc0bd8 Signed-off-by: W. Trevor King <[email protected]>
Spun off from my suggestions in #94. Details in the committed docs,
commit messages, and #94 discussion.