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API: Span - use SetName instead of UpdateName #119

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mayurkale22 opened this issue Jun 14, 2019 · 13 comments
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API: Span - use SetName instead of UpdateName #119

mayurkale22 opened this issue Jun 14, 2019 · 13 comments
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@SergeyKanzhelev
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we had a few discussions regarding this name. some reflections of those discussions are here: open-telemetry/opentelemetry-java#23

Basically the issue with setName is that we need to emphasize that this is a major change for a Span and is it not the same as set attribute.

In node I'd suggest to put a big remark in code that the name is not aligned with the spec. Ideally - change it to updateName before this issue is approved. So terminology will be aligned across languages.

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rochdev commented Jun 17, 2019

I think this depends mostly on semantics. Is it possible to create span with no name, and only set the name later on? If it's not possible, then I agree updateName better describes the behavior.

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name is the only parameter we ask for when creating a SpanBuilder. So it is absolutely required.

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jmacd commented Jun 17, 2019

I feel that SetName is more consistent with other methods on Span.

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The name highlights the fact that it is doing a different thing and is more dangerous than simple Set method. For instance, it wouldn't re-apply sampling. Thus it was made non-consistent with other Set names.

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jmacd commented Jun 17, 2019

I don't see how the API and sampling are related. Sampling is an SDK function, right?

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The name highlights the fact that it is doing a different thing and is more dangerous than simple Set method. For instance, it wouldn't re-apply sampling. Thus it was made non-consistent with other Set names.

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jmacd commented Jul 1, 2019

I've begun to question why the Sampler is considered part of the API (#164). I see this "more dangerous" statement you made above as an implementation detail. The OpenTracing StartSpanOptions allow specifying initial attributes when starting a span. If the sampler were to use those attributes to make its decision, then should we conceivably rename SetAttribute to UpdateAttribute? I think not.

I do think it's important to allow setting a name, for cases where a Span object has to be started before parsing the name. I just don't see it as important to use a special verb to update that name.

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rochdev commented Jul 6, 2019

I tend to agree with @jmacd that it should be consistent. If it's a setter it should have a setter name. This is especially true for languages that could replace setters with actual properties.

So I would propose one of these 2 possibilities:

  • If it's considered so dangerous, just remove it completely.
  • Otherwise rename to setName as is standard and consistent.

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z1c0 commented Jul 9, 2019

Having the possibility to update a span's name later is definitely a valid use case.
Also, adding a way to "freeze" or "finalize" a span so that subsequent calls to UpdateName will have no effect or fail could be useful.

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I'm adding a PR that adds explanation for the current name on why it is different from setter.

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+1 @SergeyKanzhelev. I think it is important to use "Update" to reflect that in system that do advance sampling this is different than setting a name.

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@mayurkale22 @jmacd and @OlivierAlbertini I understand you believe the name change is needed. I'm closing this issue, please consider filing an OTEP for the name change with the description on why it is needed.

As I said this issue was discussed during API (v0.1) work group meetings. And this name reflects interests of vendors with the high-load apps where the head-based sampling and the early name setting is very critical.

So the name change to the setter semantic suggestion is more than just a formality.

Please re-open this issue if you do not agree that this issue requires an OTEP.

rockb1017 pushed a commit to rockb1017/opentelemetry-specification that referenced this issue Nov 18, 2021
carlosalberto pushed a commit to carlosalberto/opentelemetry-specification that referenced this issue Oct 21, 2024
* standard system and runtime metric names

* added more conventions and tables

* formatting

* cleanup writing/grammar

* Made tables shorter, cleaned up, added runtime overview

* more small fixes

* Tweaks and moved "Open Questions" to the end

* added PR number to filename

* lint

* Update tables, add runtime examples, from review

* More edits addressing review comments

- Clarify these are metric instrument names (not "metrics")
- Remove discussion points I left inline
- Add unresolved comments from review to open questions

* add open question on versioning

* removed open question about versioning

* unabbreviate "net" and "ops"

Co-authored-by: Bogdan Drutu <[email protected]>
carlosalberto pushed a commit to carlosalberto/opentelemetry-specification that referenced this issue Oct 23, 2024
* standard system and runtime metric names

* added more conventions and tables

* formatting

* cleanup writing/grammar

* Made tables shorter, cleaned up, added runtime overview

* more small fixes

* Tweaks and moved "Open Questions" to the end

* added PR number to filename

* lint

* Update tables, add runtime examples, from review

* More edits addressing review comments

- Clarify these are metric instrument names (not "metrics")
- Remove discussion points I left inline
- Add unresolved comments from review to open questions

* add open question on versioning

* removed open question about versioning

* unabbreviate "net" and "ops"

Co-authored-by: Bogdan Drutu <[email protected]>
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