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# io.js TC Meeting 2015-01-21 | ||
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## Links | ||
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* **Google Hangouts Video**: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUoWlIshY9s | ||
* **GitHub Issue**: https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/509 | ||
* **Original Minutes Google Doc**: https://docs.google.com//document/d/1yOS17cUt7QUHJXxdVmEpS1ZS_N32HMO9QTHb2qL-KHk | ||
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## Agenda | ||
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Extracted from https://github.com/iojs/io.js/labels/tc-agenda prior to meeting. | ||
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* Invite Domenic Denicola to the TC Meetings (https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/403) | ||
* Governance: Add new collaborators (https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/234) | ||
* Stabilization and Release Cycles and Process (https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/405) | ||
* also: the state of ES6 on io.js (re: V8 upgrade policy) (https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/251) | ||
* doc: bump punycode api stability to ‘stable’ (https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/470) | ||
* Working group reports | ||
* Streams | ||
* Website | ||
* ICU | ||
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## Minutes | ||
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### Present | ||
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* Bert (TC) | ||
* Ben (TC) | ||
* Chris (TC) | ||
* Colin (TC) | ||
* Fedor (TC) | ||
* Isaac (TC) | ||
* Mikeal | ||
* Rod | ||
* Domenic | ||
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### Mini stand-up | ||
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* Bert: Release, polish, Windows installer, Windows XP, ICU | ||
* Ben: Fixing bugs, reviewing PRs, maintenance | ||
* Chris: Cleaning up points where core reaches in to private state of streams, TLS bug with New Relic | ||
* Colin: Reviewing PRs, moving vars to ES6 consts | ||
* Fedor: Commenting, working on replacement for GYP, written in C: https://github.com/indutny/pyg | ||
* Isaac: npm stuff, some streams discussing | ||
* Mikeal: Website WG, social media accounts, facebook, G+, etc. | ||
* Domenic: Changelog & Release, clarifying V8 stuff | ||
* Rod: Release, etc. | ||
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### Review of last meeting | ||
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* File copyright policy #216 | ||
- LICENSE file | ||
* governance: Add new Collaborators #234 | ||
- Deferred to this meeting | ||
* The state of ES6 on io.js _(re V8 upgrade policy)_ #251 | ||
- Only discussed V8 upgrade policy, re 3.31 vs 3.30 | ||
* 1.0.0 release checklist | ||
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### Invite Domenic Denicola to the TC Meetings | ||
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(https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/403) | ||
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Enough agreement on GitHub and in private communications amongst TC. **Done.** | ||
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### Governance: Add new collaborators | ||
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(https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/234) | ||
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* Mikeal: Proposed Chris leads an onboarding process, do a Hangout with a group of people from the original list who are willing to go through the process and take them in the first week and iterate from there. | ||
* Bert: +1 for an onboarding process, more interested in handing out voting rights to a larger group. | ||
* Mikeal: Would rather separate the voting rights issue from adding contributors, make a separate issue for this with ideas and come back to it at next meeting. | ||
* Ben: is an onboarding process necessary? New contributor should pick it up fairly quickly. | ||
* Chris: How we review code and deal with issues (cultural things) is hard to get across with just a written process. | ||
* Isaac: Basically apprentice model for joyent/node but faster and more inclusive. Some brief instruction on how to do things. | ||
* Mikeal: adding collaborators gives us an informal voting process, +/-1s on issues with the “collaborator” badge | ||
* Bert: would like to widen and formalise the voting process | ||
* Mikeal: wants to tackle the issue by bringing org to the roadmap repo, will bring Bert in on the process | ||
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Discussed whether onboarding should be mandatory. | ||
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Proposal: **take anyone proposed that +1s in that thread, mandatory onboarding process by Chris, limited by how many he can take.** | ||
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Passed | ||
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### Stabilization and Release Cycles and Process | ||
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(https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/405) | ||
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#### V8 | ||
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* Mikeal: | ||
- how to align with V8 process and increase collaboration | ||
- semver + V8 introduces some challenges | ||
* Domenic: V8 is synced to Chrome releases, Beta should ship with the version that ships with release | ||
* Ben: is the proposal to stick with stable V8 release that’s in stable Chrome? | ||
* Domenic: ideally some “beta” version of io.js that uses a Beta V8 | ||
* Mikeal: we need more releases to get experience with this, assumption is that at some point we say “this is stable” and have a stable and unstable branch. | ||
* Discussed current release patterns, how they map to minor/patch | ||
* Domenic: we are in a “danger zone” | ||
* Mikeal & Domenic discussed how you might achieve a “canary” | ||
* Bert: proposal: | ||
- io.js track stable V8, bump minor and possibly major as required | ||
- have a pre-release that tracks the Beta | ||
* Domenic: would like to keep V8 version upgrades as a separate concern to other experimental additions to io.js, decouple from io.js releases / semver? | ||
* Ben: happy with stable proposal, want to move discussion on unstable to an issue for further discussion. | ||
* Action: **Ben file an issue to discuss how unstable works** | ||
* **Agreement: V8 should track stable** | ||
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#### Logo | ||
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* Discussed logo-per-release | ||
* Mikeal: we need a versatile logo to use across all web / social presences. Having a logo to designate a release would be good. | ||
* Mikeal: ideally website team would like JSON file containing release info to be checked in to the website repo upon completion. | ||
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#### Releases | ||
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* Rod: patch releases should be frequent, there have been 4 so far, it seems to be working well but we should monitor | ||
* Domenic: frequent releases should be normal, patch & minor should just be part of the normal process | ||
* Bert: would be good to have API change notes into the git log | ||
* Discussed further about how to deal with API changes minor/major, unstable branches, etc. | ||
* **Agreement: patch and minor releases are merged as part of normal business, a release then is either a patch or minor bump depending on what was merged.** | ||
* Move discussion about tagging vs git log recording for patch/minor/major to GitHub. | ||
* **Punt on discussions about who can release and how that happens** | ||
* **Punt on discussions about synchronizing with important ecosystem projects (NAN, node-gyp, nvm, etc.)** | ||
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### also: the state of ES6 on io.js (re: V8 upgrade policy) | ||
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(https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/251) | ||
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Part of previous discussion | ||
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### doc: bump punycode api stability to ‘stable’ | ||
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(https://github.com/iojs/io.js/issues/470) | ||
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* **Agreement** | ||
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### Working group reports | ||
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* Mikeal and Chris to semi-formalise the model | ||
* Mikeal: 6 people actively engaged and growing, “could not be going better” | ||
* Chris: streams group has initial set of members, some discussions going on, first meeting pending | ||
* initial set of members: https://github.com/iojs/readable-stream/issues/97#issuecomment-70399923 | ||
* Rod: | ||
- The Docker sub-group is going great and has even got the docker-iojs images accepted as the official Docker "iojs" images. | ||
- Other "build" efforts are all release-focused for now, trying to streamline the process to make it possible to have multiple people able to cut releases. | ||
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### ICU | ||
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* Bert: | ||
- joyent/node has small-icu enabled by default making `Intl` work | ||
- can get it working but it makes the binary twice as big (~8M more) | ||
* Domenic: ideally we would track browsers and just include it | ||
* Ben: V8 adds ICU by default but you need to opt-out, which we do | ||
* Action: **Invite Steven Loomis to the next TC meeting to discuss further** | ||
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### Next meeting | ||
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* 28th January 2015 | ||
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