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[ci] [python-package] Add CI job testing compatibility with oldest possible versions #5936
[ci] [python-package] Add CI job testing compatibility with oldest possible versions #5936
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Why only these examples? Why not any
dask
ones or the plotting one?numpy
,scikit-learn
,pandas
, andscipy
introduce very few additional dependencies. For example, from the CI logs:(build link)
dask
, on the other hands, introduces many more. Withdask[array,dataframe,distributed]==2.0.0
installed in that same environment, here's whatpip freeze
shows:I don't want to take on the maintenance burden of making all of those things continue working on Python 3.6.
And as for the plotting examples... similar concern. They rely on some sometimes-hard-to-build graphics libraries like
graphviz
andtkinter
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Why not running the whole test suite? We would need a couple more dependencies like cloudpickle and psutil and some minor changes to some tests but it'd work. That'd allow us to prevent introducing a breaking change for py36.
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This is exactly what I meant when I said in #5759 (comment) that "I don't want to take on any more support than [a minimal CI job] for Python 3.6". In this project that's already struggling from a severe lack of maintainer attention and availability, I don't think we should be taking on the maintenance burden of trying to keep all the tests working with Python 3.6, which also implies keeping them working with:
pytest
lightgbm
+ in its testsIn this PR's current state, we get a new CI job that'll confirm that on every commit, the Python package...
I think that's an incremental improvement over the current state, and honestly good enough. I don't support reverting #4891 and trying to say this project fully and completely supports Python 3.6.
If you feel really strongly that we should go farther than this PR does, how about this... could we merge this as-is, and then you could put up a follow-up PR that adds running the unit tests?
According to https://pypistats.org/packages/lightgbm, only around 3-6% of
lightgbm
installations from PyPI are for Python 3.6 these days.I don't know the equivalent number for conda, but it must be lower, given that both Anaconda and conda-forge have stopped supporting Python 3.6 (and even Python 3.7 already!).
Per https://conda.io/projects/conda/en/latest/user-guide/tasks/manage-python.html
And per https://conda-forge.org/docs/user/announcements.html#dropping-python-3-7 and conda-forge/conda-forge-pinning-feedstock#2623
conda-forge
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Totally agree.
This is for publishing new versions of packages, right? You can still create an env with python 3.6 from conda-forge.
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Yeah I think you're right. I just tried that on my Mac with
mambaforge
:And it worked, albeit with some fairly old versions:
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This is the same image we use for building the wheels published to PyPI.
LightGBM/.vsts-ci.yml
Lines 21 to 22 in ac57d5a
LightGBM/.vsts-ci.yml
Lines 36 to 38 in ac57d5a
It's also not possible, as of #5759, to run
sh build-python.sh
inPython < 3.7
, since:scikit-build-core
has a floor ofPython >= 3.7
setuptools
for Python 3.6,v59.6.0
(December 2021), doesn't supportpyproject.toml
So as of #5759, Python 3.6 users will have to use the published wheels. Customizations like
--cuda
will require building the wheel in a Python 3.7+ environment and then distributing it into wherever that Python 3.6 code is running.I think Python 3.6 users should be expect to face issues for many packages (not just LightGBM) as a result of the changes in the Python packaging ecosystem described in #5061.