Too much parking!

[pnorman]

We are perhaps over-emphasizing parking in Washington, DC.

[ian29]

especially misleading if you've ever tried to park here.

[skorasaurus]

marker-spacing: float ?

[pnorman]

Perhaps we should push the start of rendering private parking to a higher zoom as well?

[CloCkWeRX]

Wanted to fix this with a nice tiled look, similar to graveyards or vineyards. Ie small faint 'p' icons that only appear on lower zoom levels would nicely solve this

[cquest]

I've fixed this problem in the OSM-FR fork: see the same area at http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=15&lat=38.93143&lon=-77.0194&layers=B00000FFF

I'm taking into account way_area as well as the parking name and type (multi-storey) to show large parking first, then smaller one the more you zoom. capacity=* could also be used.

https://github.com/cquest/osmfr-cartocss/blob/master/amenity-points.mss#L227
and
https://github.com/cquest/osmfr-cartocss/blob/master/project.mml#L2087

[CloCkWeRX]

Previously:

• https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2970

[matkoniecz]

see also https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2968

[yarl]

+1 for @cquest code, French tiles looks much better when you look eg. at this area.

[SomeoneElseOSM]

Just to ask the obvious question - are all of those parking areas such as http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/178549918 really public car parks? They're currently tagged as if they are.

[yarl]

Yep, in theory everyone can park there, but as you can predict there is nearly enough space for people living there, so most of the time it's full of cars.

[cquest]

That's why using the area is useful... it allows to classify these small
parkings as minor ones.

Regarding the other tags I'm using in the FR rendering, I'm not sure they
are available on osm.org ddatabase. Are hstore tags available ?

2014-07-24 14:55 GMT+02:00 Paweł Marynowski [email protected]:

Yep, in theory everyone can park there, but as you can predict there is
nearly enough space for people living there, so most of the time it's full
of cars.

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[SomeoneElseOSM]

In addition to size, what makes a car park especially important is "are there any others nearby" - if the answer is "no", then it's important to know where it is, no matter how big it is.

[gravitystorm]

Are hstore tags available ?

No, unfortunately not at the moment.

[cquest]

That's true, but also much more difficult to deal with without
preprocessing OSM data or quite complex postgis queries that are most of
the time too slow for live rendering.

2014-07-24 15:16 GMT+02:00 SomeoneElseOSM [email protected]:

In addition to size, what makes a car park especially important is "are
there any others nearby" - if the answer is "no", then it's important to
know where it is, no matter how big it is.

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[Rovastar]

The way area is, as we have discussed before, a solution to this.
however there is an issue with multi storey car parks with this as the area is relatively small compared to the capacity, which we don't store (yet)

[dieterdreist]

2014-07-24 15:16 GMT+02:00 SomeoneElseOSM [email protected]:

what makes a car park especially important is "are there any others
nearby" - if the answer is "no", then it's important to know where it is,
no matter how big it is.

in some cases. It might also be the only public one in a highly frequented
area and if it's small you'll almost never find a free lot, so its as if it
wasn't there from a practical point of view. The bigger it is the more
likely you'll get a free lot (because there will be more people leaving
than from a small one). Anyway, these kinds of considerations cannot
reasonably be implemented in our current way of doing things (reduce
precomputation to a minimum set of tags like coastline, real time data
updates)

[cquest]

Also take advantage of name=* which usually indicates a major parking...

I have a mix based on name, area, parking=* and capacity=*. The last two
are not available in the osm2pgsql db used by osm.org, but using the first
two may already help a little bit.

2014-07-24 16:17 GMT+02:00 Rovastar [email protected]:

The way area is, as we have discussed before, a solution to this.
however there is an issue with multi storey car parks with this as the
area is relatively small compared to the capacity, which we don't store
(yet)

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[CloCkWeRX]

This looks a lot better due to f04c2b6 / #689 - is it closable?