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Discussion: Add a setting to disable tooltips #11195

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sillyrat opened this issue Feb 7, 2023 · 9 comments · Fixed by #11962
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Discussion: Add a setting to disable tooltips #11195

sillyrat opened this issue Feb 7, 2023 · 9 comments · Fixed by #11962

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sillyrat commented Feb 7, 2023

What feature or improvement do you think would benefit Files?

There should be a setting to disable tooltips. When the mouse pointer pauses over a file or folder, a tooltip appears. In the Details and Columns layouts, the tooltip blocks the visibility of the names of files and folders behind it, and its utility is questionable as it duplicates information already visible in other columns. The tooltips add unnecessary mental effort and annoyance as one must constantly think about where the mouse pointer is "parked" so that lists of files and folders aren't intermittently obscured by unwanted tooltips.

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Add a switch under Settings --> Folders --> Display called "Show tooltips".

Also duplicate this switch in the Layout button's pop-up control panel, beneath the existing switches for "Show hidden items" and "Show file extensions".

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Version: 2.4.31.0

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Windows 11 Pro, version 21H2, OS build 22000.1516

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@yaira2 yaira2 moved this from 🆕 New to 📋 Planning stage in Files task board Feb 7, 2023
@yaira2 yaira2 changed the title Add a setting to disable tooltips. Discussion: Add a setting to disable tooltips. Feb 7, 2023
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yaira2 commented Feb 7, 2023

What about the grid layouts?

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sillyrat commented Feb 7, 2023

To keep things simple, I'd have the "Show tooltips" switch affect all the layouts, including the left sidebar containing folders / drives / etc. When I need to see details, I either switch to a different layout that shows me those details for all files/folders, or I right-click an individual item and choose the Properties button ("i" in a circle).

By the way, there's a bug with the tooltips: after right-clicking an item and choosing the Properties button, and then closing the Properties window by clicking on either OK or Cancel, the tooltips stop displaying -- when hovering over an item, the selection highlight blinks a few times and then disappears, and no tooltip is shown.

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@yaira2 yaira2 changed the title Discussion: Add a setting to disable tooltips. Discussion: Add a setting to disable tooltips Mar 28, 2023
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rafaskb commented Mar 28, 2023

A checkbox never hurts. File Explorer has the exact same tooltip, so providing something extra on Files would be nice.

A simpler approach would be to just disbale tooltips while the preview pane is enabled, just so we don't have duplicated information. That, of course, would also need to be behind a checkbox somewhere, so users don't get confused about multiple UX designs according to what pane is or isn't active.

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yaira2 commented Mar 28, 2023

A checkbox never hurts. File Explorer has the exact same tooltip, so providing something extra on Files would be nice.

I can see where you're coming from but it's important to consider that Files has been successful by carefully choosing which options to add. While more options will allow more users to configure Files to their liking, adding too many can make it harder for the regular users to find the ones they need.

Our general guideline for adding an option is that it would be used by at least 20% of users. This is sometimes hard to determine because you usually only hear feedback from users who are actively looking for the option.

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LolicoreExpress commented Mar 28, 2023

I myself am a Details view user, and can't say it ever occured to me that this could be a hindrance to visibility.
But, it is true that it essentially shows duplicate information nonetheless, though it still depends on which columns the user has selected to appear.
Maybe this could be a per-view thing ? Like, tooltip doesn't show in details view but does show in thumbnail mode or else.

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I don't see it as a real hinderance either. It is duplicate information but only if you're using the Details view. However, I think it should be kept as is, since visually it's not really a problem, and I also think that some users are used to hovering anyways since tabs might be out of view etc.

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rafaskb commented Mar 28, 2023

it's important to consider that Files has been successful by carefully choosing which options to add.

I think that's a great guideline, and it's clear in Files that all configuration options there are meaningful and important.

When we take that into consideration, I have to say that I don't see this issue as a priority, and definitely not something at least 20% of the users would use or even notice.

I also agree with the comments above about never seeing tooltips as a hindrance either, they work in such a natural way that I never even noticed they block information or show duplicates. I think they're really useful actually.

So my TL;DR would be: This would be nice but it's not a priority.

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jimboc1 commented Mar 28, 2023

I can't say I ever noticed tooltips. Never seem to be in the one spot long enough.

  • if it's redundant info like in the Details view, then it serves no purpose and is just another thing to maintain/translate. I'd remove completely for that view.
  • seeing the full path to Favorites and drive space left in the left panel I can see myself valuing (just discovered it responding to this question).
  • not a fan of options as they blow out in number and then take too long to find.

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yaira2 commented Mar 28, 2023

One take away from this is that it's not providing value in the details layout, unless everyone feels otherwise, I think we can remove the tooltip from the details layout.

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