article settings vs. content

[justschim]

Hi,
What my clients always find confusing is the difference between the settings (meta information) and the contents of an article (also in News and Events). One of the reasons is that Contao is not totally consequent and clear in the name giving. Especially not in the tooltips and the headers of the backend forms.

For example, when editing the contents of an event article, the tooltip for switching to the settings is 'Edit event':

Imho, the tooltip should say 'Edit event settings'.

And when you're there, editing the settings, the header says 'Edit event ID##' and 'Edit record ID##':

Again, here it's unclear to the inexperienced users what they are doing exactly. And they wonder what is the difference between event and record?

I would argue for a clearer difference between meta information and content in the form of clear titles and tooltips. Also a visual difference would be nice. Something like:

Thanks,

Just

[Aybee]

Discard your expression "meta information" and I'm with you.

Always good to have meaningful labels. Till then teach your clients that records (datasets) like articles, news, events etc. have "settings" and "content".

[leofeyer]

The best thing to do IMHO is to remove the <h2 class="sub_headline"> elements entirely. Now that we have the improved <h1 class="main_headline"> headlines, the <h2> information is redundant and mostly less accurate. Removing the <h2> elements also decreases the page height and saves a bit of scrolling.

@contao/developers Any objections?

[aschempp]

I don't think the main headline is noticeable like it is now, therefore I like the H2. The main headline is more like a breadcrumb, or maybe I'm misunderstanding something (wouldn't be the first time this week :D)

[Toflar]

I understand and second @leofeyer's arguments against <h2 class="sub_headline">.

[leofeyer]

The main headline is more like a breadcrumb

The main headline is indeed more like a breadcrumb, but it becomes astonishingly noticeable as soon as the H2 is removed :)

[leofeyer]

Changed in bb5d9b1.