Support for noarch conda packages? #86

ceball · 2017-07-02T17:15:04Z

https://docs.continuum.io/anaconda-repository/admin/noarch-packages includes this:

NOTE: Noarch packages are not compatible with Anaconda constructor. If you intend to use the packages with Anaconda constructor, build the packages for specific operating systems.

I couldn't find an issue about this here, so I wanted to check: is this still the case?

mingwandroid · 2017-07-02T17:25:20Z

If it is we should fix it.

ceball · 2017-07-05T21:03:39Z

Sorry, I missed this near the end of the README:

Constructor does not work with noarch-Python packages. All conda packages must be available for the platform you are building the installer for.

In that case my question is: can this be a feature request, or is it not part of the plan?

Thanks

ericdill · 2017-09-20T13:44:03Z

@mingwandroid @csoja is noarch support going to be added to constructor?

parente · 2017-09-20T14:10:02Z

To add a concrete example: If I add a norarch package to my constructor definition today, it builds fine but upon running it, all the noarch packages wind up in <env root>/site-packages instead of in <env root>/lib/python3.6/site-packages (or whatever version of Python I've specified in the constructor). As a result, they're not in the python path and not importable. In contrast, when I conda install a noarch package, it winds up in <env root>/lib/python<version>/site-packages.

Perhaps a path prefix missing somewhere in the noarch case?

mingwandroid · 2017-09-20T14:45:47Z

I've been cautioning people not to use noarch: python for a while now. It's just not ready for prime-time I'm afraid and this is a good example of that (others include permissions with .pyc files, menu shortcuts .. the list probably goes on and on).

It'd be nice to get some of this fixed, contributions are welcome.

parente · 2017-09-20T15:57:34Z

Interesting. We're just starting to dabble in the noarch space and I, at least, was not aware there was a litany of issue.

Happy to try to contribute a fix for this initial problem here, but no one should wait on me if they get to it first.

ericdill · 2017-09-20T17:53:54Z

@mingwandroid are you recommending against the use of noarch: python in general or just in the context of constructor?

mingwandroid · 2017-09-20T18:21:05Z

I personally wouldn't use it until all of the issues are fixed. It's a bit chicken and egg though, I mean if no one uses it then no one will run into the problems and attempt to fix them. I'm not even sure what can be done about .pyc files in locked down scenarios.

Everyone's use-case is different though. With my Anaconda Distro hat on I have to take a very conservative approach.

mbargull · 2017-09-20T20:33:18Z

@mingwandroid I've a strong interest to push noarch: python support generally. Would you mind if we open up some meta "noarch: python issues"-issue over at https://github.com/conda/conda/issues where we compose a list of problems you/we see with the current noarch: python-support. We could then tackle each problem in separate issues/tests/PRs -- I'm quite willing to contribute to this!
(For menu shortcuts we have conda/conda#5153 which could be solved if conda/menuinst#48 gets traction.)

danielfrg · 2017-09-20T23:20:58Z

This is actually an issue now that conda-forge is starting to push some pkgs with noarch: python.

Right now I think its impossible to create a working constructor based on new pkgs from conda-forge, for example six wont work now that it has noarch: python. Is there a way to tell constructor to completely ignore noarch pkgs?

mingwandroid · 2017-09-20T23:43:05Z

@danielfrg, not to my knowledge. As a team we're all a bit too busy to fix this. The fix would seem to necessarily intrude heavily into the solver code which would be probably be unpleasant for all involved.

@mbargull, sure, sounds good and thanks for helping out (as usual). Same thing though, we're trying to get the next release out so are all too busy to do anything for this at present. I'll have some time to think about it in a couple of weeks, but I'd love to get your take on how to approach it. I am leaning towards taking the core installer part of conda out of conda (and Python actually) and adding low-level support that would be useful for menuinst to that. This could include conversion from e.g. .png (or .svg?) to platform specific icons.

danielfrg · 2017-09-20T23:46:01Z

I just tested this on constructor=1.3 that doesn't support noarch pkgs and it worked fine by just pulling from linux-64 for example.

I am not sure why was this introduced in #43 if it actually doesn't work, i guess it work for noarch pkgs that are not python libs but most of them are noarch-python pkgs so it break most of the time. And it actually doesn't break, like other people reported the installer finishes but libs are impossible to import.

I guess the solution would be for a flag to remove the noarch path of the channel (https://github.com/conda/constructor/blob/master/constructor/fcp.py#L181)

Even better would be to actually support noarch-python pkgs but I am afraid i don't understand enough to know what the problem is. Is it the postlink script of the noarch-python pkgs?

mingwandroid · 2017-09-20T23:50:24Z

We've moved back to using conda in constructor now instead of libconda (unfortunately we're working out of a different branch for reasons I will not bore you with: https://github.com/conda/constructor/tree/cross_conda_interface), but yes, since they're in different subdirs, it's probably quite easy to stop conda from picking them up, cc'ing @kalefranz?

The work for un-noarch-ifying noarch python packages is done in conda at present.

mingwandroid · 2017-09-20T23:54:24Z

The core problem with constructor is that it has 3 backends (macOS & linux shell script, macOS pkg and Windows NSIS) and they do not share very much in common.

Also these 3 bits of installation logic are not the same code as what conda itself runs.

This is why I want to extract the core package installation logic into a (fully static) standalone executable (that is bundled with the installers), then each of the 3 installer front-ends do little more than run this executable.

danielfrg · 2017-09-21T00:30:48Z

Got it. Thanks for explaining that, i know there is a lot of context i dont have. Hopefully there is an easy fix for having constructor working again with conda-forge now that they have some noarch pkgs. other than manually listing everysingle version on the constructor, that is really not that bad.

ericdill · 2017-09-21T00:52:15Z

@mingwandroid One short-term fix is just to blacklist all noarch: python packages from constructor. This is a pretty simple fix as you can see in #115. I think this would be a nice short-term solution so that we can still continue to use constructor like we have been until constructor fully supports the noarch python packages. Thoughts?

mingwandroid · 2017-09-21T00:54:54Z

I'm fine with it, we may need @ilanschnell to review and merge it though (presumably you'd need a release/tag with this change?), unless can target our new branch where I'm happy to review and merge it.

ericdill · 2017-09-21T01:05:30Z

presumably you'd need a release/tag with this change?

Selfishly, this patch means that I've already figured out what I need to fix and build internally so that I can continue using constructor at my day-job.

Putting my open-source contributor hat on, it'd be a shame to not release/tag with this update since, without it, anyone that is currently using constructor 1.5.5 and targeting the conda-forge channel will start producing "bad" constructor installer scripts if they unknowingly pull in a noarch python package. I'd like to suggest branching at 1.5.5, applying this patch and releasing a 1.5.6.

unless can target our new branch where I'm happy to review and merge it.

What's the new branch? Are you going to be cutting releases from that new branch?

What's the deal with the 1.6.0 tag? I don't see that version available anywhere?

mingwandroid · 2017-09-21T01:09:28Z

Here is the branch: https://github.com/conda/constructor/tree/cross_conda_interface

I don't know the answers to the rest of your questions, I'll try to bring them up with people who might.

ericdill · 2017-09-25T15:24:32Z

@mingwandroid any updates here? Would be lovely to get #115 in and a new version made for the folks starting to use noarch packages

mingwandroid · 2017-09-25T15:27:27Z

I'm on vacation, pinging @csoja.

ericdill · 2017-09-25T15:28:37Z

Oh have fun 😎 ⛰ 🏖 🍸 !

Sorry for interrupting your vacation 😞

mingwandroid · 2017-09-25T15:32:01Z

No problem! Hopefully we can get constructor releases sorted out for you soon.

kalefranz · 2017-09-29T19:16:52Z

@mingwandroid

I've been cautioning people not to use noarch: python for a while now. It's just not ready for prime-time I'm afraid

Are there any bugs with conda proper that you're aware of, or is that statement more specific to constructor?

kalefranz · 2017-09-29T19:20:05Z

@mbargull Same question for you. Are you aware of any implementation problems or bugs for conda specifically w.r.t. python: noarch?

The only issue/bug that I'm currently aware of relates to these packages already installed into and environment, and the switching the python version of an environment.

mingwandroid · 2017-09-29T19:38:01Z

Other than constructor (which is hugely important both for AD and anyone wanting to make installers) there are issues reported/suspected/rumoured with noarch: python in:

menuinst.
Use as dependencies.
Multiuser/permissions.
Pinned, old conda versions.

Hopefully we can get these all investigated and addressed if appropriate.

Sorry this is a little vague.

kalefranz · 2017-09-29T21:02:41Z

Just want to avoid spreading FUD about conda. Issues no. 2 and no. 3 could potentially be something going on with conda. Issues no. 1 and no. 4 are out of the conda repository's control.

Are there any tickets I missed regarding issues no. 2 and no. 3 with conda? Again, just trying to avoid FUD, which the vagueness can engender.

astrofrog · 2019-06-29T13:25:29Z

@nehaljwani - thanks for working on this! I can confirm the Python 3 version for MacOS X works fine and tqdm imports without error. Do you have an estimated time frame for when the changes to constructor will be pushed to this repository? I am interested in using constructor to build an installer for an environment for a SciPy 2019 tutorial (in a little over a week). Is it possible the updated constructor code will be pushed here before then?

ProgramFan · 2019-06-30T03:48:53Z

I am also building python distributions for my institution and we use conda-forge noarch packages. We also distribute our software using constructor and the ability to remove python from the installation tree is highly wanted. Wait to test the new constructor.

BTW, if you want a temporary solution for noarch packages on Linux, you can use my patch in PR #256 by either install it using pip or through https://anaconda.org/programfan/constructor. @astrofrog

carterbox · 2019-07-02T19:55:25Z

@nehaljwani I tested Miniconda3-4.7.5.rc2-Windows-x86_64.exe and Miniconda2-4.7.5.rc2-Windows-x86_64.exe. I was able to import tqdm and do other conda things (which depend on tqdm). I think that's the last OS you needed testing for?

The anaconda prompt is missing from this Windows installer, so I had to open a cmd window and activate the base conda environment myself with the activate script, but this is a separate problem.

nehaljwani · 2019-07-02T20:07:53Z

The prompt was missing because I forgot to add console_shortcut package to the installer. My bad.

Thank you for testing! I'm pretty close to releasing the changes, probably by the end of this week.

nehaljwani · 2019-07-05T03:39:55Z

Hello folks, I have another set of preview installers available. Please test these out too, it will be a huge help in making the first release of constructor v3 as quick as possible.

https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/misc/previews/anaconda/2019.06/

jschueller · 2019-07-05T06:25:16Z

Works well too on Linux/x86_64

ProgramFan · 2019-07-07T01:12:01Z

Works well on macOS Mojave. Only the .sh installer is tested.

jakirkham · 2019-07-08T16:33:35Z

@carterbox, are you able to retest with the new installers?

carterbox · 2019-07-08T18:34:07Z

I was able to install miniconda, import tqdm, and uninstall miniconda with all of Windows installers.

jschueller · 2019-07-12T09:12:31Z

hello @nehaljwani any updates on this ?

nehaljwani · 2019-07-12T15:15:16Z

I have pushed a lot of changes to the v3 branch on this repo.

Please test it out. Also,

Make sure you have conda >=4.7 in the environment where you install constructor
You can get the conda.exe files from https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/misc/conda-execs/ (content here may change without notice; since this is still experimental)

jschueller · 2019-07-12T15:40:33Z

@nehaljwani your branch works fine (at least on linux64), I could build/install/test otconda (https://github.com/openturns/otconda) without the post_install workaround.

The only change was adding the required conda exe to the call:

 constructor -v --conda-exe /tmp/conda-4.7.5-linux-64.exe .

For the record, here is the recipe patch against constructor-feedstock I used to build constructor:

diff --git a/recipe/meta.yaml b/recipe/meta.yaml
index 2275cf6..ea93536 100644
--- a/recipe/meta.yaml
+++ b/recipe/meta.yaml
@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-{% set version = "2.3.0" %}
+{% set version = "3.0" %}
 {% set sha256 = "81522d7e9b63b66970314e63c1aad69a383541de2d4052fa3e69f892a5bf5dfc" %}
 
 package:
@@ -6,12 +6,11 @@ package:
   version: {{ version }}
 
 source:
-  fn: constructor-{{ version }}.tar.gz
-  url: https://github.com/conda/constructor/archive/{{ version }}.tar.gz
-  sha256: {{ sha256 }}
+  git_url: https://github.com/conda/constructor.git 
+  git_rev: v3
 
 build:
-  number: 1000
+  number: 0
   script: python setup.py install --single-version-externally-managed --record=record.txt
   entry_points:
     - constructor = constructor.main:main
@@ -23,7 +22,7 @@ requirements:
 
   run:
     - python
-    - conda >=4.5
+    - conda >=4.7
     - ruamel_yaml
     - pillow >=3.1     # [win]
     - nsis >=3.01      # [win]
@@ -32,7 +31,7 @@ test:
   imports:
     - constructor
   commands:
-    - constructor --test
+    - constructor -h
 
 about:
   home: http://github.com/conda/constructor

jschueller · 2019-07-12T15:42:51Z

@nehaljwani why arent we allowed to omit the DIRECTORY argument with --test ?:

$ constructor --test --conda-exe /tmp/conda-4.7.5-linux-64.exe

constructor: error: the following arguments are required: DIRECTORY

nehaljwani · 2019-07-12T15:55:31Z

@jschueller Whoops. I might get backlash for saying this, but ... pull requests accepted 😅

jschueller · 2019-07-18T07:58:26Z

v3 is now its using argparse instead of the conda options parser, and DIRECTORY is a positional argument so its required, and I dont how if its possible to disable that argument if '--test' is given,
any advice here ?

ankostis · 2019-07-19T00:49:34Z

Could it be that with v3 constructor, on Windows at least, exclude packages (e.g. qt) are reported as missing on installation time, and conda it tries to download them, and chokes because remote operations are not allowed?
(screenshot would be better if only installation dialog could be resized

...)

Personally can live with it, but better amend the docs to report that the construct.yaml: exclude key is not working anymore.

FelixS90 · 2019-07-24T12:39:55Z

I have pushed a lot of changes to the v3 branch on this repo.

Please test it out. Also,

Make sure you have conda >=4.7 in the environment where you install constructor

You can get the conda.exe files from https://repo.anaconda.com/pkgs/misc/conda-execs/ (content here may change without notice; since this is still experimental)

Thanks a lot for your efforts!

Although I followed your instructions mentioned above, I receive the following error message during installation,:

Upon clicking on Ignore, the installer resumes, however ending up with an incomplete installation (i.e. there is no python.exe whatsoever):

From the installation log, it seems that the initial error stems from a file (_conda-script.py) not being found.

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Reading: c:\miniconda\envs\lala\lib\site-packages\constructor\nsis\main.nsi.tmpl   
Created C:\Users\VSSADM~1\AppData\Local\Temp\tmph80cjn2h\main.nsi file   
Calling: ['c:\\miniconda\\envs\\lala\\NSIS\\makensis.exe', '/V4', 'C:\\Users\\VSSADM~1\\AppData\\Local\\Temp\\tmph80cjn2h\\main.nsi']   
makensis stdout:   
MakeNSIS v3.01 - Copyright 1999-2016 Contributors

...


Install: 7 pages (448 bytes), 1 section (2072 bytes), 2042 instructions (57176 bytes), 3532 strings (35562 bytes), 1 language table (322 bytes).   
--  --
       
   Uninstall: 4 pages (320 bytes), 1 section (2072 bytes), 434 instructions (12152 bytes), 778 strings (6652 bytes), 1 language table (290 bytes).   
       
   Datablock optimizer saved 58064 bytes (~0.0%).   
       
       
       
   Using zlib compression.   
       
       
       
   EXE header size:               58880 / 38912 bytes   
       
   Install code:                  96072 / 96068 bytes   
       
   Install data:              849203065 / 849271500 bytes   
       
   Uninstall code+data:          138900 / 138892 bytes   
       
   CRC (0xEDC097BE):                  4 / 4 bytes   
       
       
       
   Total size:                849496921 / 849545376 bytes (99.9%)   
       
       
   makensis stderr:   
       
   Successfully created 'd:\a\1\s\Common\InstallEnvironment\installer\lalaCPU20190724.exe'.

What might be of interest is that there is no _conda-script.py mentioned in the creation log. Other files that are listed in the installation log are also listed in the creation log.

I tested with and without elevated user rights.

I appreciate any hints that might lead to a solution!

nehaljwani · 2019-07-24T12:58:00Z

@FelixS90 I have pushed a few more commits to v3 branch. Could you please try again? If you still face an issue, could you please share your construct.yaml?

FelixS90 · 2019-07-24T14:06:01Z

@nehaljwani Thanks a lot for your quick reply!

Could you please try again?

I just pulled your latest changes, but the error unfortunately remains the same.

If you still face an issue, could you please share your construct.yaml?

name: lala

version: 20190724

installer_filename: lalaCPU20190724.exe

installer_type: exe

channels:
  - http://repo.continuum.io/pkgs/main
  - http://repo.continuum.io/pkgs/free
  - http://repo.continuum.io/pkgs/msys2
  - https://conda.anaconda.org/conda-forge

specs:
  - python ==3.6.*
  - albumentations
  - atomicwrites
  - blinker
  - cython
  - cloudpickle
  - dask ==0.17.4
  - distributed ==1.21.8
  - flask
  - joblib
  - keras
  - marshmallow
  - matplotlib
  - numpy 
  - pandas
  - pathos
  - pillow
  - pox
  - psutil
  - pydensecrf
  - pyside2
  - pytest
  - pyyaml
  - scikit-image 
  - scikit-learn ==0.19.1
  - scipy
  - seaborn
  - sqlalchemy
  - tensorflow ==1.13.1
  - tornado ==5.0.2
  - tqdm
  - waitress
  - werkzeug

exclude:
  - pyqt

install_in_dependency_order: True

initialize_by_default: False

register_python_default: False

keep_pkgs: False

license_file: ..\License_blank.txt

welcome_image: ..\icons\lala_welcome.png

header_image: ..\icons\lala_header.png

icon_image: ..\icons\lala_RGB.png

company: lala

The output from my environment's conda list is

# Name                    Version                   Build  Channel
asn1crypto                0.24.0                   py36_0
bzip2                     1.0.8                he774522_0
ca-certificates           2019.5.15                     0
certifi                   2019.6.16                py36_0
cffi                      1.12.3           py36h7a1dbc1_0
chardet                   3.0.4                    py36_1
conda                     4.7.10                   py36_0
conda-package-handling    1.3.11                   py36_0
constructor               3.0.0                    pypi_0    pypi
cryptography              2.7              py36h7a1dbc1_0
git                       2.20.1               h6bb4b03_0
idna                      2.8                      py36_0
libarchive                3.3.3                h0643e63_5
libiconv                  1.15                 h1df5818_7
libxml2                   2.9.9                h464c3ec_0
lz4-c                     1.8.1.2              h2fa13f4_0
lzo                       2.10                 h6df0209_2
menuinst                  1.4.16           py36he774522_0
nsis                      3.01                          8
openssl                   1.1.1c               he774522_1
pillow                    6.1.0                    pypi_0    pypi
pip                       19.1.1                   py36_0
pycosat                   0.6.3            py36hfa6e2cd_0
pycparser                 2.19                     py36_0
pyopenssl                 19.0.0                   py36_0
pysocks                   1.7.0                    py36_0
python                    3.6.8                h9f7ef89_7
python-libarchive-c       2.8                     py36_11
pywin32                   223              py36hfa6e2cd_1
pyyaml                    5.1.1            py36he774522_0
requests                  2.22.0                   py36_0
ruamel_yaml               0.15.46          py36hfa6e2cd_0
setuptools                41.0.1                   py36_0
six                       1.12.0                   py36_0
sqlite                    3.29.0               he774522_0
tqdm                      4.32.1                     py_0
urllib3                   1.24.2                   py36_0
vc                        14.1                 h0510ff6_4
vs2015_runtime            14.15.26706          h3a45250_4
wheel                     0.33.4                   py36_0
win_inet_pton             1.1.0                    py36_0
wincertstore              0.2              py36h7fe50ca_0
xz                        5.2.4                h2fa13f4_4
yaml                      0.1.7                hc54c509_2
zlib                      1.2.11               h62dcd97_3
zstd                      1.3.7                h508b16e_0

I created it using
conda create -n "lala" -y -m --channel=http://repo.continuum.io/pkgs/main/ --channel=http://repo.continuum.io/pkgs/free/ --channel=http://repo.continuum.io/pkgs/msys2 --override-channels python=3.6 conda pyyaml git pip nsis
After activating the environment, I do a
pip install git+https://github.com/conda/constructor.git@v3
and finally

constructor --clean --conda-exe %CONDA_EXE% ".\path_to_construct"
constructor --version --conda-exe %CONDA_EXE% ".\path_to_construct"
constructor --test --conda-exe %CONDA_EXE% ".\path_to_construct"
constructor --platform=win-64 -v --conda-exe %CONDA_EXE% --output-dir %OUTPUT_DIR% ".\path_to_construct"

where

CONDA_EXE is the path to the conda executable downloaded to disk
OUTPUT_DIR is the path to the directory holding the installer.

Does that help?

ankostis · 2019-07-24T18:29:26Z

@FelixS90 i think i had a similar problem (incomlete installations).

Everything was fixed when i reinstalled a clean miniconda-base.
I think that Windows don't like conda update conda to upgrade to the latest conda, at least in this case.

msarahan · 2019-08-09T17:42:29Z

added in #263. Please open new, more specific issues for any problems you encounter with the new code.

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