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# Support for abi3 python packages

<table>
<tr><td> Title </td><td> A new recipe format </td>
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<tr><td> Status </td><td> Draft </td></tr>
<tr><td> Author(s) </td><td> Isuru Fernando &lt;[email protected]&gt;</td></tr>
<tr><td> Created </td><td> July 01, 2023</td></tr>
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## Abstract

This CEP specifies how ABI3 python packages are supported in conda install tools
(conda/mamba/micromamba/pixi) and how they are built in conda build tools
(conda-build/rattler-build).

## Motivation

When building extensions for python, they might use python minor version
specific symbols. This results in the extension being usable only on that minor
version. These extensions are identified by the extension suffix.
For eg:

foo.cpython-310-x86_64-linux-gnu.so

is an extension that support only CPython 3.10 on x86_64-linux-gnu platform.

However some symbols are available in all python major.minor versions with some
lower bound on the python version. These symbols are part of the
[limited C API]([C_API_Stability]). It is guaranteed that the symbols Stable ABI
introduced in Python 3.X are available in Python 3.Y for any `Y >= X`.
Extensions using only these symbols are identified by the extension suffix
`abi3.so`. For eg:

foo.abi3.so

These extensions only support the platform it was built for (for eg:
`x86_64-linux-gnu`), but is not specified in the extension suffix.

Note that the stable ABI is only specific to CPython and is not compatible with
PyPy or other Python implementations. For a Python implementation independent
ABI, see the [HPy project](HPy).

The motivation for building abi3 packages is that we only need to build the
extension for one python version and the extension will work for any python
later version. This reduces build matrix from 4-5 python minor versions to one
python minor version and reduces the maintenance burden of package builders.

## noarch: python packages

abi3 packages are python version independent and we will first look at
`noarch: python` packages that are also python version independent and in addition
are arch independent.

`noarch: python` packages have several attributes to them:

A1. They have `subdir: noarch` in `info/index.json`.

A2. They have `noarch: python` in `info/index.json`.

A3. Python files are in `<PREFIX>/site-packages`.

A4. Entry points are recorded in `info/link.json`.

A conda install tool does four things to support them:

B1. Files in `<PREFIX>/site-packages` are moved to the correct location. Eg:
`<PREFIX>/lib/python3.10/site-packages`.

B2. python files (files ending with `*.py`) are compiled to `.pyc` files. Eg:
`<PREFIX>/lib/python3.10/site-packages/foo.py` is compiled to
`<PREFIX>/lib/python3.10/site-packages/__pycache__/foo.cpython-310.pyc`.

B3. `.pyc` files created are recorded in `<PREFIX>/conda-meta/<pkg>.json`
so that they are removed properly when the package is uninstalled.

B4. Entry points in `info/link.json` are materialised.

### info/link.json file
An example `info/link.json` for `noarch: python` looks like

```json
{
"noarch": {
"entry_points": [
"isympy = isympy:main"
],
"type": "python"
},
"package_metadata_version": 1,
"preferred_env": "foo"
}
```

An example for `info/link.json` for `noarch: generic` looks like
```
{
"noarch": {
"type": "generic"
},
"package_metadata_version": 1
}
```


Here `preferred_env` is ignored by conda since 2017 and is not supported by
other conda install tools. Therefore `info/link.json` is used exclusively
for `noarch` packages and out of the two types, `noarch: generic` packages
does not require any special action.

### info/index.json file

An example for a `noarch: python` recipe.

```json
{
"arch": null,
"build": "pyh2585a3b_103",
"build_number": 103,
"depends": [
"mpmath >=0.19",
"python >=3.8"
],
"license": "BSD-3-Clause",
"license_family": "BSD",
"name": "sympy",
"noarch": "python",
"platform": null,
"subdir": "noarch",
"timestamp": 1718625708903,
"version": "1.12.1"
}
```

### Current behaviour in solver tools

Conda package upload tools like `anaconda-client` use `A1` to upload
the package to the `noarch` subdir.

Conda install tools have slightly different behaviour.

Conda:
1. Actions `B1, B2, B3` are applied for packages with `A3`.
2. Action `B4` is applied for packages with `A4`.

Micromamba:
1. Actions `B1, B2, B3` are applied for packages with both `A2, A3`.
2. Action `B4` is applied for packages with both `A2, A4`.
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For reference, rattler follows the same behavior as micromamba.

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I'm interested what your suggestion is for this mismatch in behavior, should conda be adapted to follow mamba and rattler in this case?

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My suggestion is to keep the existing mismatched behaviour in package_metadata_version = 1 and make this uniform in package_metadata_version = 2



## Implementation for abi3 packages in install tools.

In order to support abi3 packages, we propose two methods.

### `package_metadata_version = 1`

We require the following attributes in abi3 packages:

C1. They have `subdir: <platform>` where `<platform>` is the subdir
that the package was built for.

C2. They have `noarch: python`.

C3. `A2, A3, A4` are applied.

This is compatible with `conda/mamba/micromamba` install tools
currently. This requires support from build tools to set `subdir: <platform>`
only.

In particular an option:
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Is it planned that the conda-forge tooling would check for this option and then set up Windows/Mac/Linux builds even though noarch: python is specified where it would otherwise only build on one arch?

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Yes, we can do that.

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build:
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I think for V1 recipes we would use:

build:
  python:
    version_independent: true/false

python_version_independent: true
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Is version_independent better than abi3? It seems possibly misleading to me because a package can still set a minimum Python version and so be Python version-dependent.

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abi3 packages with package_metadata_version = 2 should not be that different from any other package. It just has more things in info/link.json.

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i think something like

python:
   abi: abi3

leaves open enough space to support future expansion of other abis that may require special behavior

for example

python:
   abi: hpy

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@mariusvniekerk, both those options need the exact same thing. (B1-B4)

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Here's what a conda-build PR would look like conda/conda-build#5456

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to imply a python version independent package and set `noarch: python`
in `info/index.json`.

### `package_metadata_version = 2`

In this method, we require additional support from install tools.

For `abi3` and `noarch: python` pacakges, we record the `entry_points` and
the pure python files in `info/link,json`.
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```json
{
"python": {
"entry_points": [
"foo = foo:main"
],
"py_compile": [
"lib/python/site-packages/foo/main.py",
"lib/python/site-packages/foo/__init__.py",
]
},
"package_metadata_version": 2,
}
```

We require the following support from install tools

D1: Apply action `B4` if `python: entry_points` is present in `info/link.json`.

D2: Apply actions `B2, B3` if `python: py_compile` is present in `info/link.json`.

D3: Provide a `__supports_package_metadata_version=2` virtual package.

Note that we do not require `B1` as package authors should depend on a python
version that has a custom `site.py` that adds `lib/python/site-packages` to
the path.
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Doesnt this imply that older python versions available on for instance conda-forge will never have the ability to use abi3 packages? If we are modifying the installer we could just as well move the Python files to the python specific site-packages directory.

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Sure, but we can also have the site.py in a separate conda package as well. I'm trying to reduce all these special things that a installer has to do. With the files in lib/python/site-packages, the only thing that a installer has to do for an abi3 package is to compile the pyc files which is an optional thing anyway.

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But relying on a special package might also be problematic if you are not using conda-forge though.

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I'm hoping we can add support in defaults too.

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I would not prefer this because it means the proper functioning of the installer is dependent on a specific package. I'd rather encode the behavior in the installer itself.

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I agree that the installer should do less special case stuff. But I also don't think that it should depend on specific packages to function properly.

Even with this proposal the installer does already have special case behavior. However, without the dependency on a package that introduces a site.py file it will leave the package in a broken state. To me that adds complexity for the package maintainer.

However, one could argue that the same holds for depending on python itself..

It would be ideal if a recipe author doesn't have to care about these details.

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We could make the build tool add this package, then the installer does not have to care about it.

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Do we do this for other packages? Because then we tie the build-tool to specific package names which might also not be ideal.

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We take the C compiler name from c_compiler variable in the config. We could do the same.

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Oh I forgot about run_exports: noarch. We can extend that in the python recipe.


We require additional support from build tools.

E1. Move contents in `<SP_DIR>` to `<PREFIX>/lib/python/site-packages`
instead of `<PREFIX>/site-packages`.

E2. Record pure python `.py` files to be compiled in `info/link.json`.
TODO: not sure if this is required. We can infer this from `info/index.json`.

E3: For `noarch: generic` packages, we do not require `info/link.json` file and
build tools are recommended to not produce a `info/link.json` file.

E4: Adds a `__supports_package_metadata_version>=2` in `run`.

## Alternatives considered

### Apply all actions in a `post-link.sh` script.

A draft work provided at [python-feedstock](python-pr-669)
This was suggested by `@mbargull`, but some community members (@baszalmstra,
@wolfv) does not prefer post-link scripts as they can be used for arbitrary
code execution. However in the author's opinion, this attack vector is not a
new one since the install tool uses the python executable in the host
environment to compile the python files.

### `noarch: python` packages with `__linux, __osx, __win` constrains.

This suggestion by `@wolfv` is not ideal as this clutters `noarch` subdir
`repodata.json` file with packages that are useless for the platform in question.

<!--links-->
[C_API_Stability]: https://docs.python.org/3/c-api/stable.html

[HPy]: https://hpyproject.org

[python-pr-669]: https://github.com/conda-forge/python-feedstock/pull/669