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sntrup761 prime sharedKeyBytes value not correct? #1554

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norrisjeremy opened this issue Dec 21, 2023 · 5 comments
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sntrup761 prime sharedKeyBytes value not correct? #1554

norrisjeremy opened this issue Dec 21, 2023 · 5 comments

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@norrisjeremy
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I am a co-maintainer of JSch & recently I began working on integrating support for the [email protected] KEX algorithm using Bouncy Castle's SNTRUPrime implementation.

However, I have hit a roadblock, as it appears the sntrup761 sharedKeyBytes value is defined as 16 bytes, as seen at

public static final SNTRUPrimeParameters sntrup761 = new SNTRUPrimeParameters("sntrup761", 761, 4591, 286,
1158, 1007, 1158, 1763, 16);

This differs from OpenSSH's implementation, which defines it as 32 bytes, as seen at https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/blob/8241b9c0529228b4b86d88b1a6076fb9f97e4a99/crypto_api.h#L45-L48

Is there a reason that Bouncy Castle defines the sharedKeyBytes value as 16 bytes instead of 32 bytes?
The Open Quantum Safe site seems to also define the shared secret size as 32 bytes, agreeing with OpenSSH's definition?

@norrisjeremy
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FYI, using the following, the [email protected] I've authored for JSch works with OpenSSH:

  static SNTRUPrimeParameters sntrup761() {
    try {
      Constructor<SNTRUPrimeParameters> c =
          SNTRUPrimeParameters.class.getDeclaredConstructor(String.class, int.class, int.class,
              int.class, int.class, int.class, int.class, int.class, int.class);
      c.setAccessible(true);
      return c.newInstance("sntrup761", 761, 4591, 286, 1158, 1007, 1158, 1763, 32);
    } catch (Throwable t) {
      return null;
    }
  }

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dghgit commented Dec 22, 2023

Originally we restricted the size of the shared secret to the strength of the security properties as while the test vectors all used 256 bit values there was no guidance around whether this was actually going to happen in the final draft.

So the rule has since come down that it's always 256 bits regardless of the security strength. We have updated NTRU already to follow this, I'll do the same for NTRUPrime.

@norrisjeremy
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@dghgit,

Great, thank you for the update!

Thanks,
Jeremy

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dghgit commented Dec 23, 2023

I've deployed a new beta with the changes now as well - you'll find it at https://www.bouncycastle.org/betas The change is in beta 178b03 or later.

@norrisjeremy
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HI @dghgit,

I've tested with the 178b03 beta and can confirm it works with OpenSSH, thanks!

Thanks,
Jeremy

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