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Revisiting post-thumbnails / image size settings #48618
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If I read this right, you're suggesting that ultimately we can use smarts to retire the Image Size dropdown entirely, and serve sufficient resolution automatically based on context. Is that right? If so, I tend to agree on the longer timescale: it's a headache you shouldn't need to worry about. I also think it's likely going to be a tricky effort to get just right, both UI wise and functionally. So it seems like many of your good observations here can be addressed in the mean time with interim fixes. For example, I'd be drawn to the following wording for the size selector:
Here's a quick mockup. Note how it also includes an explicit resolution in the dropdown: Whether those 25/50/75/100 shortcut toggles are actually necessary, I don't have a strong opinion on. Consider that separate for now. What do you think? |
Yes, correct
Amazing! This would be a direct and ultimate a solution for the discussion in #48478
I agree, this is separate. There are things do consider, like that the Media & Text Block has a slider and images have input fields. But let's focus on this later. |
Thanks for following up with this issue @hanneslsm.
I think these are unnecessary, if someone wants to play with these settings they most likely know what resolution they need. Otherwise they probably won't bother. I love showing the actual resolution next to the size in your mockup! @jasmussen |
We're talking about 25/50/75/100 below the dimensions, right? Sorry if I didn't go in detail about this in my previous comment. |
I'd say telling them to change the width or height to a lower number would be just as fast and easy, especially if the aspect ratio is locked. But just like @jasmussen not a very strong opinion on this. |
Oh keep or remove those, as noted, no strong opinion. I included them in the mockup, but used the new componentry, simply to show all existing pieces in context. We can keep those shortcuts a separate discussion from the Resolution selector 👍 👍 |
I would like to agree, but do not underestimate the user. I know that if I had told her to use 200px, the next time she wanted to change a picture she'd message me because she wants to know what value she should put in there again…
Agreed. Sorry for digressing |
Resolution might help with people who actually understand what it means. In general all images used should use the highest resolution possible. So instead of needing to select Full Size image the highest resolution should be automatically used. Removing the Image Size controls and replacing these with Dimension controls (where it is natural to do so) would be a much better replacement and should be done in all the places where images are used. |
While this is good practice in many cases, it forgets the motivation for why "Large" is the default, and not "Full Size", namely that images, especially PNGs, can be huge. And so for folks on a paid plan or generally slow connection, forcing an 8mb image on them is not going to be a good experience. For that reason, I see the dropdown conversation as a separate challenge. One to solve, to be sure, and I'd agree that no choice necessary is ideal — but we have to be smart about it. |
Info: I restructured the text of the original issue to make it easier to understand. Same issue, just better formatting. |
Just adding here a request from forums to have the same option to reduce the image size for the featured image block. |
Post Thumbnails introduced in WP 2.9 (and quickly renamed to "Feature images") are a long-time essential part of Wordpress.
Different "Thumbnail Sizes" made it possible to select automatically generated different variants of a uploaded image, which differ in dimension and file size. (e.g.
Thumbnail
(150x150px) orLarge
(1024x1024px) )Please note: This issue is not about the functionality of "featured images" on a post or page but about the underlying post-thumbnails function.
What problem does this address?
The image size controls causes confusion
Now with having the editor in place, users get confused when they have to option to chose between different image variations, especially when the title of the setting is "Image size". See:
Users want (rightfully) the best quality of the image and the fastest loading time.
Why only focusing on the wording of the title is not a long term solution and not ideal
Revisiting post-thumbnails / image size settings #48618 (comment)
What is your proposed solution?
To really solve the problem in its core best fitting image /
post-thumbnail
should be used automatically.The image size controls could be removed or moved to the advanced tab.
Related issue:
Things to consider
Affected blocks:
Developer experience
While solving the confusion problem to the user by choosing the best image automatically, future developer can be confused by how the functions are named:
Overall
The settings screen
Settings → Media
might get obsolete?In the Media & Text block the dimensions of the image are controlled under the title of "Media width". This is rightfully so, just keep in mind we might have variations.
CC @tomdevisser @richtabor @jasmussen
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