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Userguide section and whitepaper on user change management. #1999
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To reduce code maintenance problems to an absolute minimum, the Iris project defines | |||
carefully defined change management procedures to ensure that : |
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defines carefully defined? A bit repetitive.
It's surely ok to exclude local imports, though it certainly is an annoying glitch and a backwards incompatibility if code fails because we removed an automatic submodule import E.G. what if importing I think @rhattersley already suggested that all internal imports could be given private internal names, to avoid this kind of problem. I've put a note in the 1.10 ticket #1948 for now
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I'm now 👎 on this. I mentioned the idea yesterday offline, but it doesn't address the whole problem. Instead I think it'd be better to use the existing |
Thanks @rhattersley
All true: "thorough" is strictly wanted, but for here+now all that really matters is what we include in _our_ definition of "public"
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To be clear, this example really isn't quite the point...
I.E. 'datetime' appears as a public property of iris.cube. |
Note: I'm going to let this stew a bit longer before doing any more, in case there are further comments. |
@QuLogic thanks, not much to say : all your comments were true ! |
@rhattersley suggested I could consider pushing some of this content back into the SemVer document. My conclusions are... SemVer provisions:
Additional provisions from Iris (as I'm attempting to rationalise them):
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major and minor version number in the version name, "major.minor.xxx", | ||
as explained in the :ref:`releases section <iris_change_releases>` below. | ||
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* Code that currently works should **still work**, and behave exactly the |
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This is a fallacy. It is not possible to change anything without breaking something else. https://xkcd.com/1172/
Classik ! 😀 But Seriously..
This example makes clear a point which I had not properly considered in the proposals here : That means we can only completely fossilize behaviour by pinning the version of all dependencies (that is, at least their major versions, where the concept applies). I think we should still accept that if a version upgrade in a dependency actually breaks something, then that is a bug and we need to limit that version until we fix it. |
@marqh what are your thoughts on this ? |
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Other issues mentioned in discussion above, but still not addressed in the text :
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ping @marqh |
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i recommend removing these sections from the user guide
this section is already in use in the white paper, so the content is preserved.
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I think this is covered in the white paper. This section could be removed, to try and keep the user guide more tightly focussed
i think it is worth considering keeping this to the white paper, and not adding a section to the user guide how much benefit do we get from the extra user guide section as well? |
I agree the userguide is rather bloated now. The userguide contents listing was just the only existing place I could think of that performs that function. Obviously, though, it does include a good few chapters that are firmly in the "specialist interest : come back later" category. |
ok, I'm sold; let's accept this now. Any reworking of the docs can include a review of
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Suggestions for clarifying change management from the user POV
= releases + versions, deprecations, iris.FUTURE
This is mostly for discussion at this point.
It is now pretty much complete + correct to my original conception.
However, @rhattersley already suggested that this information might with advantage be a bit "generalised" and then "pushed back" onto the SemVer project https://github.com/mojombo/semver.
As I was most of the way toward providing this a standalone Iris docs, I've just carried on with that for this first draft.
This issue is mentioned as a possible for 1.10, #1948
which would be nice as we are targetting a lot of deprecations in 1.10.
While may be relevant there, it certainly isn't essential.