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Add "ConsoleBouncer" option, to terminate stragglers (to fix ctrl+c) #3745
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@jazzdelightsme I am a little confused by your proposed implementation, what determined if the processes are in the allowed list? Also how impactful is this to your work? Is the unreliability hitting a lot of folks |
I'm not sure I understand the proposed implementation.
Is this option supposed to be enabled at startup of PowerShell? Or, can it be enabled at anytime while using pwsh interactively?
Displaying prompt is done PowerShell console host, not PSReadLine. |
Thanks for taking a look at this, Steven and Dongbo!
Relative to the total install base, it is a small population, but it is an important population: Windows developers using razzle. C.f. this osgwiki page (internal link). It's a significant blocker to pwsh adoption, and pain point for those who do adopt it. (This would also hit anybody else trying to ctrl+c a build-like process where bazillions of console processes are being spawned; I'm sure they exist, I just don't know what they are.)
It could be enabled or disabled at any time. The assumption is that when the feature is enabled, any processes currently attached to the console are okay to have--they should all be either the current process or parent processes, as in the following example process tree:
Oh, right, sure--that was imprecise. I set a breakpoint to see exactly where PSReadLine is disabling ctrl+c signals, it's at this point:
Two points:
Now I just noticed that you said the user might "start a process in background"... that should not make a difference: such background processes are not attached to the (current) console; and if somebody is using thread jobs, situation 2 (above) applies: you just cannot, cannot, cannot have a child process fighting for input with the shell--that is the 100% badly broken state. Does that answer your questions? |
What if the child process is a console application that doesn't read or write to the console? For example, let's say the child is a pwsh process running as an out-of-proc server for PowerShell background job, where both its stdin and stdout are redirected. In this case, it's a console application but not competing for console input. Is it attached to the current console? Will
So back to your proposal, when should PSReadLine check the attached processes again and do the termination? |
No, and no.
Right before we are going to turn off ctrl+c handling--at the point when PS tells PSReadLine "okay, it's you now"--when we are entering the state where (from the user's point of view) where the prompt/shell is waiting for input. Specifically, in |
Then I think it's a reasonable change to make. If we address this one, do we still care about #3744? When turned on the option, PSReadLine will guarantee to kill all console-attached processes that are not in the allow-list, so the exception caused by #3744 should never happen then. Also, can you maybe submit a PR for this issue as well? |
Thanks @daxian-dbw! Yes, I think we still care about #3744, because to be maximally risk-averse, this feature would be off by default. I know people occasionally hit that exception in the wild; see (for example) #1099. And even though it is a low hit rate, I think it would be nice to make that bucket dry up completely, since we believe we now know what the problem is and have a simple fix. Yes, I will prep a PR. One question in advance: does anyone have any suggestions / preferences for the name of the option? In the OP I proposed "TerminateStragglers", which I think is fairly concise and descriptive, but I didn't put too much effort into thinking of alternatives and I'm not married to it; so if anyone has better ideas, please let us know. |
Good point. I have merged #3755. For the PR, let's go with the name |
Addresses PowerShell#3745 There is a lot more detail about the problem this PR solves in the code comments and the linked Issue. In short, this PR: * Adds a new "TerminateStragglers" option. * When enabled, existing console-attached PIDs are gathered into an "allow" list (on Windows only). * When the shell informs us that it is time to wait for input, right before we disable ctrl+c signals, (if enabled) we ensure that the shell will not be broken by other console-attached children that may also be attempting to read input.
Addresses PowerShell#3745 There is a lot more detail about the problem this PR solves in the code comments and the linked Issue. In short, this PR: * Adds a new "TerminateStragglers" option. * When enabled, existing console-attached PIDs are gathered into an "allow" list (on Windows only). * When the shell informs us that it is time to wait for input, right before we disable ctrl+c signals, (if enabled) we ensure that the shell will not be broken by other console-attached children that may also be attempting to read input. How tested: added printfs and manually triggered the problem scenario, to verify that the code works as expected. There are a few open questions; I will leave some comments in the PR (for example: if someone on non-Windows enables the option, should we write a warning, or just smile and accept it?).
The "Stragglers" we are terminating are processes right? Maybe it may be more informative to have it be Also which cmdlet is this going to be a switch parameter for? Wanting to make sure I am ahead of any doc changes. cc @sdwheeler (also Sean would love you opinion on parameter name too) |
Is this going to be a PSConsoleReadLineOptions member or an experimental feature? How is the allow list managed? As for a name: what about |
It will be a switch parameter on the Yes, "stragglers" are processes... but I'm not sure if just adding "processes" into the name really makes things much clearer. "Stragglers" in this context are non-GUI, console-attached grandchildren processes; or put another way, non-GUI grandchild processes that are still attached to the console when it's time for the shell to start reading input again (back at the prompt). I think "TerminateOrphanedConsoleApps" captures that pretty well... thanks, @sdwheeler! |
So it sounds like we need new PSConsoleReadLineOptions members to hold the configuration and new parameters to |
@sdwheeler : right. Here is the PR: #3764 |
@daxian-dbw and I discussed and for now using |
@StevenBucher98 @daxian-dbw already done! :D |
Closed via #3764 |
Description of the new feature/enhancement
Ctrl+c cancellation does not work really well on Windows. Each process attached to a console receives a ctrl+c signal (as opposed to just the active shell), and sometimes, when a shell has launched some large tree of child processes (imagine a build system, for example), some processes do not exit (perhaps due to races between process creation and console attachment), leaving multiple processes all concurrently trying to consume console input, which Does Not Work Well(TM). It's usually not too bad when
cmd.exe
is your shell, because you can just keep mashing on ctrl+c and usually get back to a usable state. But it's considerably worse in PowerShell, because PSReadLine temporarily disables ctrl+c signals when waiting at the prompt, which can lead to the console being completely unrecoverable.In the ConsoleBouncer project, I sought to solve the problem with a PowerShell module. When loaded, the module installs a ctrl+c handler, and takes inventory of processes currently attached to the console; these are the "allowed processes". When a ctrl+c signal is received, all processes not in the "allowed list" (if any) are terminated.
This approach has some weaknesses. For one, it assumes that ctrl+c means "kill everything and get back to the shell", but that assumption is not always true. The Windows console debugger processes
kd.exe
andcdb.exe
, for example, handle ctrl+c (interpreting it as a signal to break into the target). So ConsoleBouncer is perhaps mostly-good-enough for most people who need it, probably, but is definitely too kludgy for “everyone”. But PSReadLine could implement something similar that would actually solve the problem more directly.The defining characteristic of a borked shell is that in its mind, it is just sitting at the prompt, waiting for user input, where at the same time, there are other processes attached to the console, also consuming input (leading to wild and unpredictable behavior, as different keystrokes go to different processes). The ConsoleBouncer module works by receiving a ctrl+c signal, and it does not know what PSReadLine in the shell (or anybody else) is up to. It assumes that ctrl+c means “everybody out!” (And it’s that assumption that is “mostly good enough”, but not really completely true.)
But if the solution were baked into PSReadLine (as an off-by-default option), it could be done differently: instead of triggering the “clear out the riff-raff” behavior upon receipt of a ctrl+c signal, it should only kick out loiterers right before displaying the next prompt. I.e. when it believes it is ready to just sit around and wait for user input (right before it calls
SetConsoleMode
to disable ctrl+c), it could just take steps to make sure that that user input is going to be able to come to it (whack the non-allowed PIDs).Proposed technical implementation details
Add a new option (off by default), named "???" (TerminateStragglers?). When enabled, PSReadLine will capture the list of processes currently attached to the console (via
GetConsoleProcessList
). Before displaying the prompt, it will check the attached processes again, and terminate any that are not in the list of allowed processes.The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: