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I see how that would be possible. If you don’t see an update in a week, ping me.
… On Aug 4, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Omar Francisco Olivares ***@***.***> wrote:
I was wondering if it's possible to make a RGB version of this algorithm using 3 threads instead of one. It would be amazing if this is possible. Have you thought about it?
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Is it possible to make not just Red Green Blue version, but colorful (depends how many colors picture require or you set for example 3-5 colors in settings)? In order to receive something like this |
I can see how it would be done. I'm crazy busy until tuesday but after
that I can actually write code.
Before then, let's work out a few details. How would you decide what
colors to start with, and when to stop using each color?
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Is it possible to make not just Red Green Blue version, but colorful
(depends how many colors picture require or you set for example 3-5 colors
in settings)? In order to receive something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7bALdSkPow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8N4TmOMTLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3_dS1gvYLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv_x1uJDvO8
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maybe before scan an image you can choose (or change in code) something like modes: fast(3 colors), medium(4 colors), exact(5 colors) or just simply set number of colors in code "colors: 3" or "colors: 5", etc. And when program scans the image it chooses main 3-4-5 colors(depending to what number you set in code) of the image you need in order to replicate the picture in choosen quality. |
sure. I could build a histogram to find the most obvious colors, and then
just tell the user "get these N colors".
What about when to stop using a color?
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maybe before scan an image you can choose (or change in code) something
like modes: fast(3 colors), medium(4 colors), exact(5 colors) or just
simply set number of colors in code "colors: 3" or "colors: 5", etc. And
when program scans the image it chooses main 3-4-5 colors(depending to what
number you set in code) of the image you need in order to replicate the
picture in choosen quality.
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hm.. not sure about this) maybe you already have something in mind? |
So I put in some work in this. I saw Instagram user @art.nitka has figured it out. She’s not sharing her technique.
I tried to write a version that used black string AND white string, but it didn’t work well.
She’s got a tricky method for switching colours. The order of strings means that some strings cover others in a way that improves the results. I don’t get how they calculate it, except by brute force trying everything.
My method was trying to look at the amount of a color left in the original image + the amount of error in the finished weave. Results looked bad.
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hm.. not sure about this) maybe you already have something in mind?
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I just counted one of her pieces. She has 188 nails around the edge. I usually math with way more! Hmm... doesn’t solve anything, it’s just an interesting data point.
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So I put in some work in this. I saw Instagram user @art.nitka has figured it out. She’s not sharing her technique.
I tried to write a version that used black string AND white string, but it didn’t work well.
She’s got a tricky method for switching colours. The order of strings means that some strings cover others in a way that improves the results. I don’t get how they calculate it, except by brute force trying everything.
My method was trying to look at the amount of a color left in the original image + the amount of error in the finished weave. Results looked bad.
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I found some other code on github but can't get it work/install the script as I am not familiar with programming, but maybe this code will help you to figure out how is it possible to make it in your script? |
Huh. Exactly the same as my algorithm but all three colours run in parallel.
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I found some other code on github but can't get it work/install the script as I am not familiar with programming, but maybe this code will help you to figure out how is it possible to make it in your script?
https://github.com/MaloDrougard/knit
https://github.com/MaloDrougard/knit/wiki/Installation-of-openframework-qtcreator-knitApp
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committed a change that should get you closer to what you seek.
…On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:19 AM Dan Royer ***@***.***> wrote:
Huh. Exactly the same as my algorithm but all three colours run in
parallel.
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I found some other code on github but can't get it work/install the script
as I am not familiar with programming, but maybe this code will help you to
figure out how is it possible to make it in your script?
https://github.com/MaloDrougard/knit
https://github.com/MaloDrougard/knit/wiki/Installation-of-openframework-qtcreator-knitApp
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It may also help to stop (click) the simulation earlier. I find I only get
maybe 25-50% done before I feel it is at its best.
…On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 2:12 PM whitecherep ***@***.***> wrote:
Nice work. I have found that she uses max 8000 lines. Here is a result on
8000 lines by your algorithm (she used black, white, yellow, green and red).
One thing is maybe that she uses grey/coffee color canvas so it helps and
add one more color close to skin color but I am not sure it helps at all.
another thing I guess thier algorithm may work like layer after layer. For
example you knit some lines in black color then some pack of lines by red,
then pack/layer with yellow, then again layer of black, etc
but not like different color lines everytime line by line because in this
case whole picture will take a lot of time, not just a few of days.
[image: mona_preview]
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I like your program very much |
click to start.
click to stop.
I suspect there's a way to do even better. say you get some lines and it's
pretty good... but obviously it would be better if some lines were in a
different order (on top of each other). So I wonder if it's worth sorting
the list of approved lines so different lines are on top and then checking
if it is closer to the original image.
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I like your program very much
Let's say I set 30,000 lines and I only execute 2,000 lines and I'm done
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the mona lisa picture gives me a lot of trouble. I can only assume they
made it work by choosing a very dark canvas to start. canvas color and
thread color makes a HUGE difference.
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click to start.
click to stop.
I suspect there's a way to do even better. say you get some lines and
it's pretty good... but obviously it would be better if some lines were in
a different order (on top of each other). So I wonder if it's worth
sorting the list of approved lines so different lines are on top and then
checking if it is closer to the original image.
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Will the program continue to adjust? Look forward to. |
Yes of course you can. |
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So about the RGB thing... I spent a long time trying to get satisfying
results.
Even in two colors with white and black thread I have not succeeded.
There must be a way to order the sequence of threads so that black and
white mix in the right way to get the closest result.
HOWEVER sometimes it may be better to let the wrong color through in a few
places if the overall effect is improved.
I can't imagine how to write a sorting metric that measures this in a
reasonable amount of time.
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@Neyestan that looks absolutely gorgeous! Well done! |
@Neyestan That looks great, looks like it requires a lot of patience! |
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Hi
Your work is great
I just want some advice from you
Can I work in square or rectangle (black and white)
Also in the folder below
weaving_algorithm_square
I don't run the program when I change the photo
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This thread is for rgb version issues.
Please give a more detailed error report in a new issue. Thank you!
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Your work is great
I just want some advice from you
Can I work in square or rectangle (black and white)
Also in the folder below
weaving_algorithm_square
I don't run the program when I change the photo
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Hello Dan, |
if i use bigger image i need more strings. it's hard to make more strings physical. |
Agreed! |
here is a hint i noticed but i dont know i f it helps or no! |
- Separate each color
- turn to black & white
- process with makelangelo software
- name each file for the color? to avoid confusion later
- draw each image in the correct color
- post results
Remember that the markers are 100% opaque. Make your layers 100% opaque
before putting them together to see what the results might look like.
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hi! it,s me again. but with something more useful this time.
i have done more work on the graphic design side of things and i hope you
consider it..
there is a select option in photo shop called color range that select
similar colors in the photo and turn the photo into clusters like folows:
the red color range
[image: red]
<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/72053303/94955917-99daa180-04eb-11eb-8b85-73308ce9fe53.jpg>
the black color range
[image: black]
<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/72053303/94955948-a959ea80-04eb-11eb-91ba-4a979e28f202.jpg>
the brwon color range
[image: brown]
<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/72053303/94955950-aa8b1780-04eb-11eb-87d5-9699fe767af3.jpg>
the green
[image: green]
<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/72053303/94955954-ab23ae00-04eb-11eb-92f3-a83e41f657ba.jpg>
all togeather
[image: all colors]
<https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/72053303/94955945-a8c15400-04eb-11eb-8d6f-df14c109165d.jpg>
.......
in the coding side of things do you think all of that may come togeather
i mean instead of using red ,green ,blue, yellow thread
we use red brown green black and black thread on white background using
the photos obtained from photoshop?
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I've been wondering about a method that starts at the center and moves
outward. that way the hardest to reach detail is done first.
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i used the instruction file from each as input and the result is away far
👎
maybe the threads need to be in a layers style .. how much thread in a
layer or what layer above the other i cant figure it out
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Hi |
maybe. i will try next project on bigger canvas. |
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Just an Update |
I tried it and all it did was slow the calculation.
Show evidence if you really think it’s better.
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Just an Update
If you are finding the similarity between two colors using euclidean distance with r,g,b values, it won't yield exact results.
Convert r,g,b to Lab or Hsv and use the euclidean distance formula.
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If we're using the RGB colorspace the difference between 2 colors isn't the same as how humans perceive the difference though. |
I hear you when you say "well technically there's another way".
My experience is that it didn't change the output. Please prove me wrong.
Send a pull request with your better version and some screenshots.
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If we're using the RGB colorspace the difference between 2 colors isn't
the same as how humans perceive the difference though.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/9018016/how-to-compare-two-colors-for-similarity-difference
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Hi, I am probably late to the party and you guys have already found a solution to the colored portrait problem. I have note read the code yet but have been very interested in making the colored versions ever since I saw the monochrome ones.
Would really love to know where are you with this :) Cheers! |
Hey, thanks for writing. Welcome!
The threads are not separated into separate layers. My thinking is to find the thread that will most improve the weaving. Sometimes that's color A, sometimes color B. They weave in and out of each other. Maybe single color per layer is better, I haven't tried it. Most definitely there is some trial and error. also play with the number of pins, the thickness of string, the transparency of string... Art! |
I have tried this colored algo quite a while but I am still struggling. I can share you my idea and my simulation results(these results are adjusted on numberOfCrossingLinesForEachLayer, orderOfColorLayer Manually which is the part I am not satisfied with. I dont have a way to know when to stop and switch color. And also for now the process is dumb---draw different layer once and put them together, it is not practical in production): Idea of how I did it:
Here are some simulations: Simulations:Drawbacks:really depends on the control of ColorPlatteSections, numberOfCrossingLinesForEachLayer and orderOfColorLayer (black always on top). All are manually set. @i-make-robots Hope this may help, I am also working on it. Thank you for your work, I tried it and it is doing great. |
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Wow |
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@Atanaelslompo That looks great! Can you share your idea on how to make the color ones? |
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https://github.com/MarginallyClever/weaving_algorithm/tree/master/weavingSeparateLayers |
There are three document in "weavingSeparateLayers". and paste the code in Processing. When i click run directly, it said >>> Cannot find a class or type named “ImageToPath” |
I was wondering if it's possible to make a RGB version of this algorithm using 3 threads instead of one. It would be amazing if this is possible. Have you thought about it?
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