2023.11.21

[seanmcilroy29]

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2023.11.21 Agenda/Minutes

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Time 0800 / 1600 (BST) - See the time in your timezone

• Chair – Adrian Cockcroft
• Chair - Pindy Bhullar (UBS)
• Convener – Sean Mcilroy (Linux Foundation)

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Discussion

• Review miro dataflow in detail
• What are we trying to do in discussion with Google Cloud and with obtaining real-time information - along the lines of Issues;
  • How can energy data collection and reporting be implemented by a cloud provider? #4
  • Purchased Renewable Energy is not settled for a year #8
• Decide if the purple notes are in the right place - added Redfish IPMI interface to RAPL note
• Research the specifics and issues around each schema - ran out of time this week.

The Miro dataflow primarily shows how this can be done in a data centre or using cloud billing data 
and approximations, so part of the discussion of each schema (over the coming weeks) will cover 
the issues around getting this data in the cloud. We will then define new schemas to patch  
the difference between what can be done in the datacenter and what is needed in the cloud.

Create the table of data based on the Google schema

• Create the table of data based on the Google schema.

However, we are abstracting it slightly so that we can make estimates about what AWS and Microsoft are currently stating regarding their carbon-free energy. We are aiming for a current estimate instead of relying on the previous year's data, as everyone is trying to make informed guesses at the moment. See

Open Issues Project Board

• Carbon Free Energy estimates as an Impact Framework dataset #14
• What are the use cases for real time power and carbon intensity information? #12
• How can cloud regions be mapped to electricity grids for carbon metrics? #7

Ross Fairbanks

• What should the real time cloud standard be called? #2

AOB

• Any topics members would like to submit

Next Meeting

• 05th Dec

Adjourn

• Motion to adjourn

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[mrchrisadams]

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