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Hi Simon,
Thank you so much for getting in touch; it's a really nice gesture. As you
say, the community website has been a huge help, but we certainly welcome
your offer of opening up the lines of communication even more.
Is there anyone attending the LSST Project and Community Workshop in Tucson
in August?
I'm mulling this over. If we can get some funds from LSST:UK to attend,
then I (and maybe Lydia) would very much like to come along. However, it's
also possible that I may be on vacation at that time. I'll make some
enquiries this week and hopefully I'll be able to attend. If I can't make
it, I would very much like to set up a virtual meeting.
I would also like to bring to your attention that we are planning on
changing how obs_* packages are set up (hopefully for the better). See
RFC-595 <https://jira.lsstcorp.org/browse/RFC-595> for discussion of this
plan. We are also planning on moving to a new system for I/O abstraction.
We understand these changes can be disruptive and would like to facilitate
any changes you need to make to keep up to date.
Thanks for letting us know; it's good to be forewarned. At present, our
main focus is ensuring that we can continue to make measurements using the
stack on GOTO data, as Lydia needs data for her thesis. As such, we may end
up continuing with the current obs_* setup (and thereby sticking with the
current version of the stack) for the purposes of her thesis (Lydia's got
about 15 months of funding left). However, I must say I agree with your
motivations for making these changes; I always felt the obs_* packages
contained a collection of files that, while necessary, didn't really sit
cohesively together.
Despite the above caveat re: thesis, I expect to continue to develop the
obs_goto package and will develop a new obs_* package for the new system
once it is implemented (even if we delay full implementation for the sake
of Lydia's thesis). I want to keep up-to-date as, beyond GOTO, I'm
expecting to be closely involved in the UK's efforts for data fusion (which
I'm presuming will require obs_* packages to be written for other cameras).
Quick question: Will the aforementioned changes make data fusion between
LSST and other telescopes more straightforward? A major push for LSST:UK is
to combine LSST data with other multiwavelength data, particularly using
near-IR data as references for forced photometry (and vice-versa). However,
it's not entirely clear to me how this would work, as I think we'd have to
work across different obs_* packages.
If you have feedback that you would prefer to share privately, I'm very
happy to communicate that way as well.
I've always found the community website broadly welcoming, and people on
there respond really quickly. Unfortunately, I've been a little quiet
recently as the Spring semester is very teaching-heavy for me. The teaching
term's nearly finished now, and so I hope to delve back into development
within the next few weeks. Expect to see a few requests for help from me on
the community forum in due course (we seem to be having a problem with a
memory leak which we've not pinned-down yet)! Along those lines, and while
acknowledging my lack of expertise relative to the DM team, if there's
anything you feel we could help with over the coming months, then do please
let us know.
If I think of any more feedback during the coming days, I'll be sure to
drop you a line,
Thanks again, and we're looking forward to hearing more from you and the
rest of the DM team!
James
…On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 22:49, Simon Krughoff ***@***.***> wrote:
It's great to see how far this work has come. I was just looking at the
talk from the LSST:UK All Hands. It looks like you are making good
progress. I know there has been quite a bit of communication on
https://community.lsst.org, but I'd like to offer to open up the lines of
communication even a bit more. Is there anyone attending the LSST Project
and Community Workshop in Tucson in August? If so, it would be great to
carve out a little time to chat. If not, the Data Management group would
welcome a chance to set up a virtual meeting to talk about your experiences.
I would also like to bring to your attention that we are planning on
changing how obs_* packages are set up (hopefully for the better). See
RFC-595 <https://jira.lsstcorp.org/browse/RFC-595> for discussion of this
plan. We are also planning on moving to a new system for I/O abstraction.
We understand these changes can be disruptive and would like to facilitate
any changes you need to make to keep up to date.
If you have feedback that you would prefer to share privately, I'm very
happy to communicate that way as well.
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Regarding the following:
There are many goals for the new I/O abstraction system, but a two key ones are:
I think that will really help out your use case. |
It's great to see how far this work has come. I was just looking at the talk from the LSST:UK All Hands. It looks like you are making good progress. I know there has been quite a bit of communication on https://community.lsst.org, but I'd like to offer to open up the lines of communication even a bit more. Is there anyone attending the LSST Project and Community Workshop in Tucson in August? If so, it would be great to carve out a little time to chat. If not, the Data Management group would welcome a chance to set up a virtual meeting to talk about your experiences.
I would also like to bring to your attention that we are planning on changing how
obs_*
packages are set up (hopefully for the better). See RFC-595 for discussion of this plan. We are also planning on moving to a new system for I/O abstraction. We understand these changes can be disruptive and would like to facilitate any changes you need to make to keep up to date.If you have feedback that you would prefer to share privately, I'm very happy to communicate that way as well.
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