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[No QA] Add proposal template for contributors #14817
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## Proposal | ||
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### Please re-state the problem that we are trying to solve in this issue. | ||
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### What is the root cause of that problem? | ||
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### What changes do you think we should make in order to solve the problem? | ||
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### What alternative solutions did you explore? (Optional) | ||
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**Reminder:** Please use plain English, be brief and avoid jargon. Feel free to use images, charts or pseudo-code if necessary. Do not post large multi-line diffs or write walls of text. Do not create PRs unless you have been hired for this job. | ||
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ATTN: Contributor+ | ||
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You are the first line of defense in making sure every proposal has a clear and easily understood problem with a "root cause". Do not approve any proposals that lack a satisfying explanation to the first two prompts. It is CRITICALLY important that we at a minimum understand root cause even if the solution doesn't directly address it. When we avoid this step we can end up solving the wrong problems entirely or just duct taping over them. | ||
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Instructions for how to review a proposal: | ||
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1. Address each contributor proposal one at a time and address each part of the question one at a time e.g. if a solution looks acceptable, but the stated problem is not clear then you should provide feedback and make suggestions to improve each prompt before moving on to the next. Avoid responding to all sections of a proposal at once. Move from one question to the next each time asking the contributor to "Please update your original proposal and tag me again when it's ready for review". | ||
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2. Limit excessive conversation and moderate issues to keep them on track. If someone is doing any of the following things please kindly and humbly course-correct them: | ||
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- Posting PRs. | ||
- Posting large multi-line diffs (this is basically a PR). | ||
- Skipping any of the required questions. | ||
- Not using the proposal template at all. | ||
- Suggesting that an existing issue is related to the current issue before a problem or root cause has been established. | ||
- Excessively wordy explanations. | ||
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3. Choose the first proposal that has a reasonable answer to all the required questions. | ||
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There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. Getting-your-thoughts: Should we also say something that it's OK to hide comments if they are off-topic or no longer need to be considered? I think that can be helpful. There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. Like, maybe if someone doesn't use the proposal template, or they haven't completed all the questions, those are good candidates to be hidden. There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. I like this, but I'm not sure if C+ has moderation tools available. There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. You're right, they do not have that. Do you have any idea if it's easily possible to give them moderation ability? I don't know much about how fine-grained the settings are. CC @johnmlee101 or @coleaeason if you know. There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. So, I just looked this up and there actually is a concept of a "moderator" in GitHub: There was a problem hiding this comment. Choose a reason for hiding this commentThe reason will be displayed to describe this comment to others. Learn more. sounds perfect! |
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Getting-your-thoughts: Should we say something about only posting one proposal at a time? Oftentimes I see someone will come along and post up to as many as four different proposals. On high-traffic issues, it's a lot to manage.
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I think that's a good call out. I think ideally a contributor should only have one "proposal waiting for a review" at a time. Sometimes it happens that you come up with alternate solutions. But I'd argue those belong back the proposal you have open and you should update the current proposal if it hasn't been reviewed yet.
Which also makes me wonder whether we want people to "update their original proposal" or post a new one (since people don't all do this the same way).
Thinking more on all of this and I think my ideal would probably be something like:
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maybe that is unclear though. because we are saying it's ok to leave additional proposals. I think it would be better to just have one proposal that the contributor is tweaking and evolving until it's perfect.
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Maybe something like...
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I like the idea of always keeping 1 post per proposal and only having one proposal reviewed at a time. I don't quite get the
link to proposal
when updating an existing one. If it's all in the same post, then there isn't anything to link to. Plus, GH keeps the edit history of the post anyway.The thing I dislike is when there is one large proposal that keeps getting tweaked, and so the tweaked proposal exists in several different forms across comments and it's difficult to see what changed between them.
That's why I like just always keeping it in a single post and making updates to the existing post rather than posting a new comment.
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Ah, so in my head it was a link to the comment which "jumps" you to the proposal in the same issue.
I think the idea with posting an update to a proposal is just that it encourages the best practice of letting everyone know your proposal is "ready for review" again. And then we'd have a general loop of:
This probably happens organically already (perhaps inconsistently) so maybe the attempt to create a process for this seems pointless.
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ah, I got you. Just like how we post "updated" on a PR to let people know it can be reviewed again. I like that