[1825] Valid tile placements denied in some cases.

[alexarnon]

Game #58038: https://18xx.games/game/58038

Valid placements for AlexA are not allowed/possible, e.g.:

1. X16 is greyed out, while it should allow placement of a # 52.
2. X8 disallows even a simple # 7 (tight curve).
3. W11 disallows any kind of double-dit tile that should be possible.

Game ID: AlexA

The above have been a problem since the beginning of the game, except for # 1 which appeared only on OR5.2 IIRC (we are playing a semi exploratory game).

I am using Firefox on Mac.

[roseundy]

Cannot reproduce in hotseat - server issue.

[alexarnon]

Cannot reproduce in hotseat - server issue.

It does indeed have a significant (2-3 sec) delay before displaying the error in the top bar, and reloading.

[roseundy]

Actually, I just get it to reproduce in hotseat. It might have something to do with undoing.

[roseundy]

It appears that in history mode, clicking on the map to place a tile causes the game to be reloaded and the hexes to be reinitialized. Normally this isn't a problem since the @hexes variable is just reassigned to the the HEXES constant. In 1825, I have to build @hexes from several sources. This means re-initializing hexes will result in a different set of objects which then causes problems.

[roseundy]

So I think this is strictly an issue in history mode. Do you have an example where you actually can't lay a tile? In history mode, you can't change game state anyway. In the game that you showed me, if you did an "undo" to the point that GWR operates, I think it works fine.

[roseundy]

Also, problem 1 is not a bug: X16 is no longer reachable since X14 was tokened out.

[alexarnon]

Right, it was tokened out, sorry :)

[alexarnon]

So I think this is strictly an issue in history mode. Do you have an example where you actually can't lay a tile? In history mode, you can't change game state anyway. In the game that you showed me, if you did an "undo" to the point that GWR operates, I think it works fine.

Sure, on X8 I can't place a tight turn (number 7).

[roseundy]

I've been able to lay that tile just fine. Using the back arrows doesn't work (that's the bug). I need to see the game currently at the point where the tile cannot be laid.

[alexarnon]

OK, I'll note here. Should be by tomorrow.

[alexarnon]

@roseundy it's now in OR, my turn.

[alexarnon]

OK @roseundy , seems to work now!

[alexarnon]

Well, not so much - the server refuses the above again (have gone forward, then restarted my turn, then problem started again.

[roseundy]

It looks fine from what I see, but since I'm not you I can't actually make the move. What error is it throwing when the server refuses your move?

[alexarnon]

Again, it worked but when I'd placed the tile and then undid, it started throwing this error again.

[HerbyMcGee]

I have this issue with a different (non-server) error message.
https://18xx.games/game/61154?action=315
When trying to upgrade N13, it says LNWR is "Unable to reach city/town on upgraded tile with any train," which is not true.

The same thing happened when LNWR wanted to upgrade N12 earlier in the game.
https://18xx.games/game/61154?action=183

L&Y was able to upgrade N12 with no issues

[roseundy]

@HerbyMcGee, this appears to be a separate bug.

[HerbyMcGee]

I will create a new issue. Thanks