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Cross-osc sync #510

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esaruoho opened this issue Feb 5, 2019 · 5 comments
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Cross-osc sync #510

esaruoho opened this issue Feb 5, 2019 · 5 comments
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DSP Issues and feature requests related to sound generation in the synth Feature Request New feature request Requires Param List Change To accomplish this issue we need to be able to modify the DAW params in all our hosts

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@esaruoho
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esaruoho commented Feb 5, 2019

this was posted by Hanz Meyzer on KVR at
https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6413421#p6413421

and maybe adding cross-osc-sync and cross-osc-sync/ringmod

i've reached out to him asking about what it actually means.

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mkruselj commented Feb 5, 2019

I think he just wants to be able to sync one oscillator to another, not relying on each oscillator's internal master sync sub-oscillator (the Sync slider). So, that'd be a button to make Osc 2 master for Osc 1, and another button to make Osc 3 master for Osc 2.

I am not sure what he really meant by cross-osc-sync/ringmod. We already have ringmod in the mixer, 1x3, 2x3, There's only 1x3 missing, I suppose that could be easily added down the road.

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esaruoho commented Feb 5, 2019

He left some further commentary:


Yes, I mean syncing of OSC2<->OSC1, OSC1<->OSC3, OSC2<->OSC3. It can create much more rich and interesting sounds than the algorithmic per-voice-sync, since you can modulate the triggering OSC while modulation etc.

By cross-sync/ringmod, I mean both at once, like above, cross-osc-syncing, but additionally also ringmod, just like it is available in Korg Radias, Microkorg XL etc. I think it is done in serial, I do not exactly know. Have a listen below (actually it is a too simple example). It can give nice dirt to the sync sound.

Example sound:

First the two OSCs plain, one OSC pitching down
Second mode "Ring"
Third is mode "Sync"
Fourth is mode "RingSync"

https://soundcloud.com/hanzmeyzerlab/example-ringsync

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mkruselj commented Feb 5, 2019

Yeah ringmod would still be a mixer thing, it comes after oscillator sync.

From Korg Radias manual::

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The above audio example was removed from SoundCloud, so here's one I cooked up in Reaktor:

https://app.box.com/s/tyrnv9bapdli46kq55ccrg7x8ijhrh2w

@baconpaul baconpaul added this to the 1.7 or later milestone Feb 24, 2019
@baconpaul baconpaul modified the milestones: 1.7 or later, Currently Unscheduled Oct 4, 2019
@mkruselj mkruselj added DSP Issues and feature requests related to sound generation in the synth Feature Request New feature request and removed Future release labels Feb 5, 2020
@mkruselj mkruselj changed the title kvr-feature-request: "and maybe adding cross-osc-sync and cross-osc-sync/ringmod" Cross-osc ync and cross-osc sync/ring mod Feb 5, 2020
@mkruselj mkruselj changed the title Cross-osc ync and cross-osc sync/ring mod Cross-osc sync and cross-osc sync/ring mod Feb 5, 2020
@baconpaul baconpaul added the Requires Param List Change To accomplish this issue we need to be able to modify the DAW params in all our hosts label Jun 4, 2020
@baconpaul baconpaul modified the milestones: Currently Unscheduled, No earlier than 1.8; Currently Unscheduled Jun 7, 2020
@mkruselj mkruselj changed the title Cross-osc sync and cross-osc sync/ring mod Cross-osc sync Nov 27, 2020
@mkruselj mkruselj modified the milestones: After parameter list expansion, Currently Unscheduled Feb 25, 2021
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mkruselj commented Aug 26, 2021

@baconpaul I think we should not do this one. Ever. It'd probably sound like crap. Close it?

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Well I think we could make it sound good clsssic to classic but otherwise and even then it would be very hard so I think I agree.

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