diff --git a/src/common/SurgeStorage.cpp b/src/common/SurgeStorage.cpp
index 071263007b1..4943672229d 100644
--- a/src/common/SurgeStorage.cpp
+++ b/src/common/SurgeStorage.cpp
@@ -109,6 +109,8 @@ SurgeStorage::SurgeStorage(std::string suppliedDataPath)
    last_key[0] = 60;
    last_key[1] = 60;
    temposyncratio = 1.f;
+   temposyncratio_inv = 0.0f; // Use this as a sentinel (since it was not initialized prior to 1.6.5 this was the value at least win and mac had). #1444
+   
    songpos = 0;
 
    for (int i = 0; i < n_customcontrollers; i++)
diff --git a/src/common/dsp/effect/DualDelayEffect.cpp b/src/common/dsp/effect/DualDelayEffect.cpp
index eb1695f4704..baef177771e 100644
--- a/src/common/dsp/effect/DualDelayEffect.cpp
+++ b/src/common/dsp/effect/DualDelayEffect.cpp
@@ -29,10 +29,22 @@ void DualDelayEffect::init()
    lp.suspend();
    hp.suspend();
    setvars(true);
+   inithadtempo = true;
+   // See issue #1444 and the fix for this stuff
+   if( storage->temposyncratio_inv == 0 )
+   {
+      inithadtempo = false;
+   }
 }
 
 void DualDelayEffect::setvars(bool init)
 {
+   if( ! inithadtempo && storage->temposyncratio_inv != 0 )
+   {
+      init = true;
+      inithadtempo = true;
+   }
+   
    float fb = amp_to_linear(*f[2]);
    float cf = amp_to_linear(*f[3]);
 
diff --git a/src/common/dsp/effect/FreqshiftEffect.cpp b/src/common/dsp/effect/FreqshiftEffect.cpp
index 787d3e57b3c..b31397f5f26 100644
--- a/src/common/dsp/effect/FreqshiftEffect.cpp
+++ b/src/common/dsp/effect/FreqshiftEffect.cpp
@@ -35,10 +35,24 @@ void FreqshiftEffect::init()
    fi.reset();
    ringout = 10000000;
    setvars(true);
+
+   inithadtempo = true;
+   // See issue #1444 and the fix for this stuff
+   if( storage->temposyncratio_inv == 0 )
+   {
+      inithadtempo = false;
+   }
+
 }
 
 void FreqshiftEffect::setvars(bool init)
 {
+   if( ! inithadtempo && storage->temposyncratio_inv != 0 )
+   {
+      init = true;
+      inithadtempo = true;
+   }
+
    feedback.newValue(amp_to_linear(*f[fsp_feedback]));
 
    if (init)
diff --git a/src/common/dsp/effect/effect_defs.h b/src/common/dsp/effect/effect_defs.h
index 68d9696fb9b..bdd0a7ba108 100644
--- a/src/common/dsp/effect/effect_defs.h
+++ b/src/common/dsp/effect/effect_defs.h
@@ -50,6 +50,7 @@ class DualDelayEffect : public Effect
 
 private:
    lag<float, true> timeL, timeR;
+   bool inithadtempo;
    float envf;
    int wpos;
    BiquadFilter lp, hp;
@@ -121,6 +122,7 @@ class FreqshiftEffect : public Effect
 private:
    lipol<float, true> feedback;
    lag<float, true> time, shiftL, shiftR;
+   bool inithadtempo;
    float buffer[2][max_delay_length];
    int wpos;
    // CHalfBandFilter<6> frL,fiL,frR,fiR;