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fire_hydrant number for Germany #5272

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Elsensee opened this issue Sep 25, 2023 · 4 comments
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fire_hydrant number for Germany #5272

Elsensee opened this issue Sep 25, 2023 · 4 comments

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@Elsensee
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I've seen that the AddFireHydrantRef quest is only enabled for Switzerland and France. I would request for it to be enabled for Germany as well.

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I started tagging missing fire hydrants and found out that some have "ref" numbers tagged and some don't. After looking at the sign, I saw that there is a corresponding number to this. It's number 6 on the sign: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Hydrantenschild_mit_Legende.svg

I've only seen very few without any such number given on the sign.

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Enable the quest for Germany as well. Probably even add a guiding image for entering it like with the diameter.

@qugebert
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Some reference (the issue, where this quest was discussed)
#3059
And in the pull request @mcliquid explained why it is not enabled in germany
#4440

And at least in Bavaria, i've never seen any signed reference number for fire hydrants.

@Elsensee
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I did find the first issue but it was closed and I don't like to discuss closed issues that much.

The second, I did not find. It's interesting that it seems to vary by state? In Hamburg they appear on every sign.
Wikipedia also mentions that they might not exist in every area: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinweisschilder_zu_Stra%C3%9Feneinbauten#Hinweisschilder_f%C3%BCr_Hydranten (The images below also show that some signs have a number, some don't)

Googling "Hydrantennummer" yields some results, which confirms that this definitely is a regional thing.

Doing a quick overpass query shows that even in southern germany some fire_hydrant's have a numeric ref, while others have a text like "Im Garten", etc.

Sooo... I don't know?

@mcliquid
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In my experience from the fire department, it can be quite different between individual communities / regions whether there is a number or not. In Switzerland, as a rule of thumb, every hydrant has a number on a metal plate. In Austria, only very few municipalities have implemented a numbering. In Germany I have never seen such a thing, at least not in southern Germany and it would not be known to me from the fire department ordinance.
Even if there are certainly individual municipalities that carry a numbering, I would still claim that it would be "spammy" in Germany but also in Austria. But that's just my opinion :)

@westnordost
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Jo, steht auch im verlinkten Wikipediaartikel:

Bauteilnummer zur eindeutigen örtlichen Zuordnung in einem Versorgungsgebiet (Stadt oder Gemeinde). Je nach Betreiber nicht angegeben.

@westnordost westnordost closed this as not planned Won't fix, can't repro, duplicate, stale Sep 26, 2023
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