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Hoster Issue? #25

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kkarhan opened this issue May 17, 2023 · 4 comments
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Hoster Issue? #25

kkarhan opened this issue May 17, 2023 · 4 comments

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@kkarhan
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kkarhan commented May 17, 2023

Apparently it seems as if https://oshi.at is geoblocking Germany as attempts to connect to caused it to go 404 but not on the Tor Browser...

Is this intentional?
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elandorr commented May 18, 2023

Using a random sniffed open proxy (apparently some hotel forgot security)

ASN 3320
ASN Name Deutsche Telekom AG
Country Code DE

I can access oshi.at just fine. oshi doesn't blacklist DE.

German bans are weird, though, some German ISPs practice preemptive obedience and censor all kinds of stuff even before gov orders come in.

Uploading from there is permitted, too: https://oshi.at/ZUua/RXzS.jpg

@kkarhan
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kkarhan commented May 20, 2023

@elandorr basically all ISPs in Germany do shit like Contentmafia-Based DNS Censorship.

But I don't use my ISPs DNS and if it oshi.at was blacklisted DTAG would've blocked it as well due to being CUII member.

In fact, I do purge DNS providers from my repo if they censor the records or otherwise alter the responses...

Since I've taken further analysis it seems as if the IPv4 version of the website is being served form a rogue ISP that has been blocked on my end...
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If @somenonymous finds time to migrate webhosters I'd recommend to change that...

@kkarhan kkarhan changed the title Geoblock? Hoster Issue? May 20, 2023
@elandorr
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I think we should stop pinging him directly or indirectly via non-relevant issues here. Github discussions aren't enabled here, but here's one on a fresh repo. I'm quite busy, but I'm passionate about these topics so feel free to chat there.

Your ISP could block directly, too. Just automate it like I used to do for Google etc. DNS blacklists are just 'entry-level' as Europe is incompetent and it's good enough to keep 90% of people out.

Regarding that host, it's not a 'rogue ISP'. It's one of the few decent ISPs left that knows what free speech means. Read the comment above the line you linked:

## AS208046 Maximilian Kutzner trading as HostSlick / hostslick.com Rogue ISP Providing Hosting Services for Hategrooming Forum [KiwiFarms]

Wherever you copied those lists from is some system parrot blindly following the Zeitgeist. No such thing as 'hatespeech' - or you have to censor everything. It doesn't capture the subtleties of indirect insults, either. I can insult your very core without ever using anything deemed offensive, but that's the coward's way. I feel personally attacked every time I'm forced to read system sheep, now that's real 'hatespeech'.
Someone should make common-sense-list that filters these obedient parrots. But no need.
Genuine humans can click 'close'. Easy enough.

Thanks, though, now I found another hoster for our list of ISPs that respect a free internet.

I know a hoster on there personally, good stuff. Some of these people really fight for freedom, which is insanely difficult in Europe.

Close this issue here as there is no issue. Obviously you cannot host oshi on a system shill. It'd be taken down, raided in 5 mins. No system shill allows legit anonymity or privacy.

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We never ever geoblock anything, but thanks a lot for your concern. I'd vouch for keeping such topics within the #9 scope for now, since it fits better there and have nothing to do with the code itself.

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