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Refine aliyun and aws cloud tidb configurations #492
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Why create this variable in terrraform? Can't the user change it directly in the helm values? If we start doing this we eventually have to create a terraform value for every helm configuration.
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Yes, neither do I like this direction but I cannot figure out a better way.
The problem is if we guide the user to customize the
values.yaml
, we have to also document that their modification will be overridden once they runterraform apply
again, which render a newvalues.yaml
using tf vars. This can be troublesome and error-prone for the users.I do like the direction that the terraform scripts should only bootstrap the cluster and users should eventually maintain the tidb cluster by the application level method like
values.yaml
, sadly we haven't yet solved the cluster scaling problem outside terraform as mentioned in #436How do you think?
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Can they change tidb-cluster-values.yaml.tpl directly and use that as their values file?
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For the long-term, the current flow of information is backwards. Terraform should just provision the K8s clusters and node pools.
Then maitentance is step 2 & 3
Step 3 shouldn't be needed actually, but instead just an API call or button click to scale out the node group is needed. Its a problem that terraform wants to be in charge of setting the number of nodes in an autoscaling group, and I know on AWS this is supposed to get fixed in a newer version of terraform.
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I agree. As a experienced Kubernetes user, I would prefer to manage my tidb cluster this way, which is more flexible and predictable.
In the meantime, encapsulating all the things in a terraform script to provide "one-click deploy" is valuable for users who are not familiar with Kubernetes and Helm, and is a good fit for presentation especially.
So I suggest to add an option to skip the
helm install tidb-cluster
in terraform to achieve thisterraform + helm
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Yes, of course. I'd consider this as a workaround, because this expose the implementation details to user. Despite we may or may not document this method, we should provide a more formal way to leverage the full customization of helm values, for example, separate the terraform script into two modules: infrastructure & helm as you mentioned in #494
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I don't think we should have a goal of hiding helm values as an implementation detail: that makes it impossible to customize the existing deployment. What is the downside to having users modify the helm values config file?
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The helm values is not the implementation detail, the template file (
tidb-cluster-values.yaml.tpl
) is. If the user edit the template file, they are maintain the terraform script on their own, and they have to track and merge with upstream change manually, and there's always an indirection even if the related change don't require an infrastructure change (e.g. change the config).Have saying that, it is probably not a serious problem in real world usage. So the dominate reason I think we should finally avoid documenting "modify the
.tpl
file on your own" is #494 will expose thevalues.yaml
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How does the end user make changes that they need to the helm values in the existing setup? We do need a way to handle this workflow now.
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I think we should limit this setup to deploying and managing only one tidb cluster. For managing multiple tidb clusters in a single k8s cluster, we may provide another terraform script to only set up the k8s cluster and tidb-operator itself.
In this case, it makes more sense to configure the tidb clusters using variables.tf.