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Simplify roundabout navigation instructions #6146

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dvdmrtnz opened this issue Sep 27, 2023 · 6 comments
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Simplify roundabout navigation instructions #6146

dvdmrtnz opened this issue Sep 27, 2023 · 6 comments
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Directions Issues with next turns, labels, streets, voice instructions Navigation Issues related to the active Navigator / Navigation mode TTS Text-to-Speech

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@dvdmrtnz
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Currently the instructions when navigating a roundabout are separated into three instructions:

  • "Enter the roundabout",
  • "Take the Nth exit" and
  • "Exit the roundabout",
  • with "In X meters" added in between instructions.

This makes them too verbose. This problem will become worse when #3130 is merged and there will be names of streets mixed in with the instructions.

It would be simpler if the instructions are consolidated into a single "At the roundabout take the Nth exit".

Here is an example:

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In 200 meters enter the roundabout, then in 100 meters take the fourth exit. In 200 meters at the roundabout take the fourth exit.
Enter the roundabout, then in 100 meters take the fourth exit. At the roundabout take the fourth exit.
Exit the roundabout -
@dvdmrtnz dvdmrtnz added TTS Text-to-Speech Navigation Issues related to the active Navigator / Navigation mode labels Sep 27, 2023
@zyphlar
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zyphlar commented Sep 27, 2023

I like simplifying roundabouts, though I wonder if "exit" (now) is still useful. Maybe people who live near roundabouts could do a little testing and see if the final "exit" command is accurate enough to be useful?

Roundabouts near me are so small, GPS inaccuracies and timing/speeds probably can't accurately say "exit" at just the right time. But if it was possible and accurate, I often find it helpful to just be told "do it, do it now" rather than suffer that last bit of indecision (wait, is this the 3rd? Are we counting the one I came in on?)

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nach0 commented Sep 28, 2023

Chipping in to share my experience with the beta version linked at the top of #3130

When entering a roundabout, the TTS said something like 'enter the roundabout onto Main Street'. I would expect the enter the roundabout instruction to be just 'enter the roundabout', and having the street announced only when exiting the roundabout.

In my short test with the TTS-street names beta the street name was mentioned both when entering and exiting the roundabout, I believe it is only needed when exiting.

Following the syntax proposed by @dvdmrtnz this would be "(in 200 meters) at the roundabout take the fourth exit onto Main Street".

@biodranik
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It's not reliable to announce "Exits" from roundabouts. The driver should know it in advance to plan which lane to take.

@RedAuburn
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Agreed, the exit announcement is often way too early, and the driver should be counting instead of relying on the announcement anyway.

@dvdmrtnz dvdmrtnz added the Directions Issues with next turns, labels, streets, voice instructions label Jun 10, 2024
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Altonss commented Nov 6, 2024

Agreed, the exit announcement is often way too early, and the driver should be counting instead of relying on the announcement anyway.

In my testing I very often experiences the "exit" anouncement to be way too late, when the driver already had left the roundabout, which isn't great either...

@TobiPeterG
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I like simplifying roundabouts, though I wonder if "exit" (now) is still useful. Maybe people who live near roundabouts could do a little testing and see if the final "exit" command is accurate enough to be useful?

Roundabouts near me are so small, GPS inaccuracies and timing/speeds probably can't accurately say "exit" at just the right time. But if it was possible and accurate, I often find it helpful to just be told "do it, do it now" rather than suffer that last bit of indecision (wait, is this the 3rd? Are we counting the one I came in on?)

In my experience, it is not accurate enough. For me, it always tells me to exit, when I already left the roundabout, so it isn't helpful. Also, it is confusing why it's telling me "then exit in 50m", I don't care how many meters I drive in the roundabout, I just want to know where to exit.

For me, a single announcement "enter roundabout in 300m and take 4th exit" would be perfect :)

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