[placenames] Place nodes and polygons rendered differently

[openstreetmap-trac]

Reporter: augustus.kling[at]gmail.com
[Submitted to the original trac issue database at 9.25pm, Tuesday, 21st July 2009]

Names of places should be rendered using the same visual style disregarding being tagged on a node or a polygon.

Example region: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.85085&lon=9.92267&zoom=16&layers=B000FTT[[BR]]
Node Staighaus: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/380983273[[BR]]
Polygon Hnlishofen: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/33473121[[BR]]
Both objects are tagged as place=hamlet and name=*. There are no other tags.

Current rendering: Hnlishofen is rendered in a small black font. Staighaus is rendered using a bigger gray font.[[BR]]
Expected rendering: Using the same font type for both objects. I propose the bigger gray font since it's more similar to village or town name rendering.

The description above applies to zoom levels 16 and higher.[[BR]]
Zoom=15: Both objects are rendered with black font.[[BR]]
Zoom=14: Staighaus is rendered in black, Hnlishofen isn't rendered (enough space is available).[[BR]]
Zoom=13 or smaller: No object is rendered (equals expected rendering for this zoom levels)

[openstreetmap-trac]

Author: siberiano
[Added to the original trac issue at 9.37am, Wednesday, 3rd March 2010]

This issue affects me too. I've faced this issue when tried to draw a local place (which is a toponym with a clear boundary, but not any administrative unit).

The issue was that there's a trade-off between accuracy and visibility:

1. a node is rendered in big font at scale >=13, which is wide enough.
2. a polygon is precise, but its title is rendered in small font and only from scale 15.

Toponyms are used by locals, but a non-local won't find it by himself. The map is supposed for finding, not for locals to admire their places, right?

Right now I can put nodes for the toponyms and forget this, but it's better to draw boundaries, so that if 2 places are near and confused, it were clear when looking at the map.

[openstreetmap-trac]

Author: siberiano
[Added to the original trac issue at 9.42am, Wednesday, 3rd March 2010]

to be clear: a polygon with tag place IMO should be drawn as a node is drawn now, in big font and up to scale 13.

[openstreetmap-trac]

Author: spod
[Added to the original trac issue at 10.01pm, Sunday, 27th November 2011]

Also reported in #3705

[openstreetmap-trac]

Author: drnoble
[Added to the original trac issue at 10.34pm, Thursday, 17th January 2013]

This also appear to affect place=isolated_dweling, which is rendered on nodes, but not areas.

Expected outcome, both would be rendered (and be the same) whether a node or area is used.

Current situation:
Rendered as node example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=57.29931&lon=-4.29038&zoom=17&layers=M
Not rendered on areas example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=57.338485&lon=-4.21507&zoom=18&layers=M

see also https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/3181 - request to render place=isolated_dweling

This part is not a big issue, but would be great if someone were able to fix it.

[openstreetmap-trac]

Author: math1985
[Added to the original trac issue at 6.09pm, Monday, 14th April 2014]

See also gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto#103

[openstreetmap-trac]

Author: math1985
[Added to the original trac issue at 6.14pm, Monday, 14th April 2014]

This is now also being discussed on Github:

gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto#103

Therefore, I will close the issue here.