Changing bibmarks for a specific scenario

[pabloabur]

Hi. Following the discussion in #127 (changing bibmarks when \nonumcitations is set), I can now get the desired format, but sometimes I need \cite output to be slightly different. For instance, sometimes I want to cite inside parenthesis, so I would like to remove the parenthesis surrounding bibmark's number and add a comma. So in the MWE below:

test.tex:

\fontfam[LMfonts]
\nonumcitations


\bibtexhook{
    \def\_createbibmark #1;#2,#3;#4,#5;#6,#7;#8,#9\_fin{%
        \ifx ^#8^%
            \ifx ^#6^%
                \ifx ^#4^#2%
                \else #2, and #4\fi
            \else #2, #4, and #6\fi
        \else #2, et al.\fi
        \space (#1)%
    }
}
\_def\cite[#1]{{\_citeA#1,,,\_printsavedcites}}

Some discussion (\cite[ref]).

\bigskip
\usebib/s (simple) bibsample
\bye

bibsample.bib:

@ARTICLE{ref,
    title="title",
    author="Name1, Surname1 and Name2, Surname2",
    year="2023"
    }

We get Some discussion (Name1, and Name2 (2023)), but I would like to create another macro (for this situation only) that generates Some discussion (Name1, and Name2, 2023). Is there a recommended way to tackle this? I tried this trick with lists, \directlua, and \replstring, but I couldn't succeed.