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Removing Audio Calling from Live Share in Visual Studio Code #4826

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fubaduba opened this issue Nov 30, 2022 · 15 comments
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Removing Audio Calling from Live Share in Visual Studio Code #4826

fubaduba opened this issue Nov 30, 2022 · 15 comments
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fubaduba commented Nov 30, 2022

The Live Share team has made the decision to remove the audio extension that works in conjunction with Live Share. The date of removal will be announced on this issue.
Adding audio calling in Live Share was part of our effort increase the fidelity of pairing sessions. Since then, the pandemic has forced everyone to use a default communication tool that usually allows a generous guest and outside organization policy. While we do see some small and consistent use of the audio extension with Live Share, we want collaboration in the editor to focus first on coding related features, improve performance and usability of them, while innovating on ways to make it more enjoyable.
All of this brings us to the conclusion that Live Share will no longer support the audio extension in the upcoming year, and we will do a gradual sunset of it.
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Audio extension in Visual Studio Code:
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=MS-vsliveshare.vsliveshare-audio
https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=MS-vsliveshare.vsliveshare-pack

@RichNSD
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RichNSD commented Feb 2, 2023

Now that you've decided to officially kill it (for now, at least), I have a sneaking suspicion that many more people were experiencing the very strange bug I had with another collaborator of mine.

For some strange reason, even though the Main LiveShare Extension was working without issue, as soon as my friend installed the Audio Extension, his entire LiveShare bundle decided to disappear from his VSCode Interface and none of my invites worked (they just opened his VSCode and did nothing). lol

So maybe it's a mercy killing and the rest is just convenient. 😛

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mengesb commented Feb 3, 2023

While I understand the motivations described above, I would much rather have embedded audio vs chat/text during a LiveShare session, would much rather have the power efficiency of one application vs two to get audio, and use a platform that doesn't even have the option for a camera. This appears to be a minority opinion, and I respect that, however am still sad. Making VSCode dependent on the likes of Slack, Teams, Skype, CallCentral, Twilio, HipChat, etc. for voice communications or a better pair-programing experience seems like a misstep IMO.

@alfredotp
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I am sorry that you have made this decision, I have tried this extension and it seemed very good collaboratively. I hope they reconsider this decision, which seems to me a step backwards.

@RichNSD
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RichNSD commented Feb 3, 2023

I'm with @mengesb, honestly.

While I understand the motivations described above, I would much rather have embedded audio vs chat/text during a LiveShare session, would much rather have the power efficiency of one application vs two to get audio...

Not only do I find the text chat... clunky, for lack of a better term, but since VS Code lacks the UI Customization/Arrangement Freedoms that Visual Studio has, trying to keep the chat in-view while you work is (at best) tedious.

Making VSCode dependent on the likes of Slack, Teams, Skype, CallCentral, Twilio, HipChat, etc. for voice communications or a better pair-programing experience seems like a misstep IMO.

While I don't see an issue with being somewhat dependent upon these apps, which offer a significantly greater amount of control over calls & meetings, it would be nice not to require them for a simple audio chat. The biggest reason for that on my list, however, is in regards to System Resources (namely RAM), since the aforementioned apps do a lot more than just the call/meeting you want/need to be part of.

@amjedidiah
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Totally agree with @mengesb and @RichNSD
#bringbackliveshareaudio

@GuSuku
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GuSuku commented Feb 8, 2023

A great opportunity for a "twilio for audio calls" startup... or maybe those already exist, and liveshare can leverage such an API.

@karimov-javokhir
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I think it's for the best. Let everyone do their part of the journey. I would rather use my own communication tools while using Live Share. It's because, that comms tool does its job best. And Live Share does its job in combination with that external comms. Haven't used Live Share audio once and I wouldn't be too eager to try ;)
Rest in peace!

@derekbekoe derekbekoe unpinned this issue Mar 1, 2023
@maxfurman
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Just my two cents, having audio integrated into the share session was really convenient - right up until the point where I needed to see the output on my partner's end, at which point we needed a screen share, so we started a zoom call, and once you have that there's no reason to have audio through VS Code. As much as a full conferencing setup within the editor would be neat, I can see why the Code team might consider that out of scope.

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arunura commented Mar 31, 2023

I can understand how audio doesn't fit in the core mission for the VSCode team (perhaps there's some burden of abuse as well), but nevertheless a useful feature in removing the friction with code collaboration. I'm sad to see it go. Is it practically possible to use other audio solutions ? Sure. Would it be as convenient as a simple audio comm out of the IDE ? Likely not.

That said, I can understand the issue with the economics of it for a free IDE. Perhaps a audio offering in a 'business plan' is in the works, once the dust settles on this ;-) Perhaps with the copilot subscription ?

@derekbekoe derekbekoe pinned this issue Apr 13, 2023
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Closing this issue as this feature has now been deprecated from Live Share. The motivation for the decision was shared in the initial post. However, rest assured that we value all your input and further comments are welcome. Thanks.

@derekbekoe derekbekoe closed this as not planned Won't fix, can't repro, duplicate, stale Apr 13, 2023
@tausiq2003
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anything else coming to inplace of live share audio?

@derekbekoe derekbekoe unpinned this issue Jun 9, 2023
@chinmaym505
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I really wish that Liveshare had a voice call feature. It would make collaborating with my team so much easier and more efficient. Sometimes typing out messages just doesn't cut it and being able to communicate through voice would be a game-changer. I hope that the developers consider adding this feature in the future.

@kailando
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kailando commented Oct 8, 2023

please make a audio / webcam bundle for liveshare

@Emojigit
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Is there any official alternative to Live Share Audio? It would be great if there exists one, and even better if it can be integrated back into Live Share.

@RanukaDinsitha
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Sad, very sad!

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